I rather like what SKYMTL said
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SKYMTL
I think you are completely taking this product out of context. If this was a NEW architecture and had accordingly high expectations, I'd come down on it like a ton of bricks.
But this isn't a new architecture, nor is it billed as efficient. It is a niche product built for a particular consumer niche with products that wouldn't normally be used. This is AMD pushing their chip to the highest point possible and releasing a component that would normally be completely ignored if the tree huggers had anything to do with it.
This goes for all enthusiast components too.
The perf per watt of a GTX TITAN is in the ****ter compared to a GTX 760
The same can be said about the 3960X when placed against an i7 4770K. Think IVB-E will be any better? Hell no.
If power consumption and efficiency were the only things dictating CPU engineering, you would have to kiss the enthusiast component market goodbye. This is about pushing the limits.
I'd have a serious problem with these new processors if AMD said "that's it, we're done" but they're not. While these are being released, work on Steamroller is proceeding apace, as is Excavator. The FX-9590 is a last hurrah for Piledriver and I think it is a fitting send-off.
Lets get the ugly facts out of the way, the performance of Pilediver compared with Intel is abysmal,- Done!
Right, To me AMD always have been and still are more of a pure enthusiast product than Intel, Yes Intel CPU's are faster, more power efficient.... there also kinda boring, even restrictive, Core i3's all locked, each generation after SB seems some how intentionally strangled in their overclocking, it feels like they are snaring at you every time you put in your own settings, like its something they have to do to keep their customers happy, not like they want to do it because they are enthusiasts like yourself, nor do they really push the boundaries, seemingly through fear of upsetting tree huggers.
AMD on the other hand have had unlocked multipliers for far longer then Intel, and they are still more adjustable, its a kinda "
unlock everything, let them overvolt everything..... let them play....." Heat? Power consumption? do you really care? do you want a Prius? or do you want to justify that elaborate cooling you got there? you want 8 cores and 5Ghz and a tone of heat to melt the cooper plat on that thing? sure why the hell not.....
I could never see Intel piling on the cores and let you run them at over 1.6 volts, i could never see Intel stamping a 220 Watt TDP on anything even if they could gather up enough CPU to do it.
Intel are like the academic sensible conservative, pretty boring.
AMD are the mad lunatics who run around with flailing arms licking windows.....
Isn't that ^^^ really who we want them to be?
Intel is what i must have to get the best performance, AMD is what i actually want! if AMD do ever get even close to Intel's performance, my i7 is gone in a heartbeat, unceremoniously and no fond memories.
