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AMD Matt when can 290(x) + users expect an upgrade?

Would be nice if they just released it unexpected at some point. Seems odd that it wouldn't be this year for a high end product given that have the lower and mid range covered.
 
Smudge said:
I bought a 290 ref on release, its still performing well and I commend AMD for the extra performance youve managed to squeeze out of it over the years. This card is SO hot and loud though, it throttles even in my massive case, I have to play with headphones on to drown out the noise. My problem is that I have invested in a 1440, 144hz freesync monitor so I feel im tied into AMD. Yes I could buy an Nvidia 1070/80 and it would be an upgrade, maybe even smoother (quieter!!!) than my current setup. The 480 IAB's seem to be a side grade or less. I want to keep my freesync!

I'm pretty sure there are lots of people like me wanting some sort of 490 type of card. We dont want to buy the last gen 4gb fury cards to get some sort of upgrade.

AMD give us something now before we jump ship!
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I was in your boat, 390X plus a 1440P 144Hz Freesync BenQ XL2730Z. Felt tied to AMD.

Decided that I was not able to contend with the heat and noise anymore, ordered a 1070 FE. Best decision I ever made and I don't miss Freesync one bit. Sold my 390X on MM and haven't looked back.

My 1070 provides massive performance increases, while consuming less than half my MSI 390X's power, outputting a tiny fraction of the heat while being quite quiet, can't ask for more really.

I'd take the plunge now, get a 1070 and enjoy it. Who knows when AMD's Vega will launch, and who knows if it will be any good?

Bear in mind that NVIDIA can give us 1070 performance at 150W. AMD give us 970 performance in the RX480 for the same 150W - that's how far behind they are.

If they do make a card that challenges the 1070/1080, it will be a 300W+ monster IMO. Some are fine with that, though I'm certainly now - quiet and cool are so much better for me.
 
The only thing I wonder, can AMD even release better cards? You only have to look at how much power their low / mid range new cards draw, plus the temperatures they run at.

Get a more powerful card and have what, an atomic bomb to deal with? I hope they can but they really need to improve and that takes time.
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
Could never give up freesync or gsync for a faster card, best tech ever for gaming.
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I've still got my Asus Rog laptop with a 17" Gsync monitor plus 980M to use - comparing them side by side, I can't see hardly any difference. Though the 1070 provides a very high average FPS in all the games I play (100+), so this limit's Gsync's effectiveness.

Those of you on 480's, 290's, where you get dips to 20, 30 FPS etc, then Freesync is absolutely amazing.
 
not for a while by the looks of it, as you can see AMD are happy to push out cards with 2014 performance as well as perf/watt being the same as a 28nm card back in 2014
 
Ive got FreeSync, 144Hz, and id give it up for a faster card, i played without it before at 144Hz, i can do it again, no way would i let FreeSync stop me from from upgrading.
 
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Griffildur said:
The only thing I wonder, can AMD even release better cards? You only have to look at how much power their low / mid range new cards draw, plus the temperatures they run at.

Get a more powerful card and have what, an atomic bomb to deal with? I hope they can but they really need to improve and that takes time.
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How the times have turned from the HD7870 vs GTX 480 era :D
 
Kaapstad said:
I though I saw somewhere that Vega was coming in November.
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Maybe because of this?

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Its been accurate so far, Polaris landing in the middle of 2016-2017. If its accurate again Vega would look be sometime at the end of the year/sometime early next year.
 
Griffildur said:
The only thing I wonder, can AMD even release better cards? You only have to look at how much power their low / mid range new cards draw, plus the temperatures they run at.

Get a more powerful card and have what, an atomic bomb to deal with? I hope they can but they really need to improve and that takes time.
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Their new mid-range card draws a lot less power than their previous high end. There's plenty of room between a 480 and the kind of power that a true high end card usually draws. Let's not forget that the 980 Ti didn't exactly sip power, and the Titan X2 won't either with a 250W TDP right off the bat. That's just the price you pay for scaling things up to that degree. There's also the fact that Vega will almost certainly use HBM2, which will knock a decent chunk off the power consumption, as it did for the Fury series versus the 390X, which enabled them to offer more performance for slightly less power draw.

Temperatures are largely irrelevant, as cards with a higher TDP will be built with beefier coolers. If you stuck a Vapor-X cooler from a 290X on the 480 it'd probably run at 50 degrees at full load, but that large and complex a cooler is so costly that you won't see it on a mid-range offering like the 480, because it'd make the card too expensive. All of these mid-range cards are very much built down to a price, which is why the 1060 FE is a cheap imitation of the 1070/1080 FE cooler for example. When you start asking for £400+ for the high end, the extra bill of materials for a beefy cooler is easier to integrate into the price.
 
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