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AMD "Never Settle" 12.11 Driver - benchmarks

Best person to ask to get an AMD Rep on this forum is Gibbo, he has a fantastic relationship with AMD as he does with all his vendors.

Well i asked the AMD rep at overclock.net anyway. If someone could take the time to ask Gibbo, that would be great. I should get a reply tomorrow.
 
Hey All :)

Ive just had my Faulty Gigabyte 7950 WF3 Swapped for a new Unit.

The Old one was running at 900MHz - My new One runs at 1000MHz

Are these 12.11 Beta Drivers Stable to Use?
 
Currently I have mine at 1100/1375 @ 1.125V Core and 1.6V memory stable played BF3 last night about 4 hours Also on latest BETA drivers.

Going to gradually increase 25Hz and see how far I can go. My ASIC quality is at 75%
 
Shrek said:
Hey All :)

Ive just had my Faulty Gigabyte 7950 WF3 Swapped for a new Unit.

The Old one was running at 900MHz - My new One runs at 1000MHz

Are these 12.11 Beta Drivers Stable to Use?
I used the latest beta drivers with mine fine. Also you have one of the very latest batches of the 7950 WF3, runs at 1.25v at load, but need to use a different WF3 bios to enable clocking with voltage control.

Check my thread here >> http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18469510
 
There are some AMDers who watch this forum, but don't post "officially".

I'm not back to work until Monday, but will keep an eye (And check with the driver team when I get back).

I don't get to read the forums as often as I'd like, so feel free to ping me a trust if i miss something.
 
There are some AMDers who watch this forum, but don't post "officially".

I'm not back to work until Monday, but will keep an eye (And check with the driver team when I get back).

I don't get to read the forums as often as I'd like, so feel free to ping me a trust if i miss something.

Ok, thanks, good job on the 12.11 Drivers. and the GPU's themselves, i'm looking forward to the 8### series.

But please, ask your colleagues to sort the CPU's out, Piledriver is better, and a step in the right direction, but the power consumption is still high, and single threaded performance / IPC is still not there.

I don't need or want 8 cores in 4 modals.

6 fast and proper cores will do nicely. :)
 
I'm going to ask him when we can expect to see the new memory management drivers as well should he fail to mention that when he updates tomorrow.

I wouldn't count on those any time soon, memory management at the best of times requires a lot of debugging and testing, it's not an easy task. Especially driver level, it will need a whole shuffle of the memory management portion of code. If I were the dev I'd be stocking up on coffee :D

I think AMD are going to have a good year, and that's coming from an Nvidia fan boy!
 
Ok. I'm annoyed.

Currently at my friends house with my PC, having a LAN party with a few friends. I've taken my 120Hz monitor, naturally, and left my other monitors at home.

However, it seems without the other monitors, i can't run 120Hz without it glitching with green snowy artifacts on the desktop.... 60Hz is fine, anything over that isn't...

Any ideas why?
 
Ok. I'm annoyed.

Currently at my friends house with my PC, having a LAN party with a few friends. I've taken my 120Hz monitor, naturally, and left my other monitors at home.

However, it seems without the other monitors, i can't run 120Hz without it glitching with green snowy artifacts on the desktop.... 60Hz is fine, anything over that isn't...

Any ideas why?

Probably to do with 2D clocks. They default to 300/150/0.8v on one monitor, which is known to cause artifacting on 120Hz or 1440/1600p monitors. Multi-monitor it defaults to 500/1375 2D clocks, which is why multi-monitor setups rarely experience these problems.
 
But please, ask your colleagues to sort the CPU's out, Piledriver is better, and a step in the right direction, but the power consumption is still high, and single threaded performance / IPC is still not there.

I don't need or want 8 cores in 4 modals.

6 fast and proper cores will do nicely. :)

You could just get an Intel CPU? :) :)

I don't think it's just as simple as "sorting it out" nor are they likely to listen to what you personally don't want/want.

Lobby them as a group if you want them to take notice - one comment on a non official AMD forum is not going to instigate any kind of meaningful change.
 
You could just get an Intel CPU? :) :)

I don't think it's just as simple as "sorting it out" nor are they likely to listen to what you personally don't want/want.

Lobby them as a group if you want them to take notice - one comment on a non official AMD forum is not going to instigate any kind of meaningful change.

He could give AMD 10billion for R&D and that might make a difference? :D
 
You could just get an Intel CPU? :) :)

I don't think it's just as simple as "sorting it out" nor are they likely to listen to what you personally don't want/want.

Lobby them as a group if you want them to take notice - one comment on a non official AMD forum is not going to instigate any kind of meaningful change.

Join the masses? well that would be the sensible thing to do...

What CPU do you have? "Intel" what about you? "Intel" okay.. "Intel here too" "and here" "over here" "and here" yawn.....

I may end up switching back to Intel yet, then i will be 'Intel total' just like every other household....

Or i might just get an FX-83##

For now my trusty old Thuban is performing well, so i'm in no rush to change it.

I don't want the only CPU option in the world to be Intel, its boring and not good for anyone of us.

Besides, i do like AMD CPU's despite the single / low threaded performance flaws.

AMD themselves need to recognize they are moving in the wrong direction with this modular design.

Me telling them they should get back to basics will not make that happen, getting a group together is a great idea, like a blog page that people can singe and comment on... i will give that some thought.
Oh and i have told them what i thought of this design.
 
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He could give AMD 10billion for R&D and that might make a difference? :D

Ha! I very much doubt it on both fronts :D

@humbug - I know what you mean... you like their products so you want to stay loyal but there becomes a point when it's counter productive to stay loyal if you know what I mean. :)
 
Ha! I very much doubt it on both fronts :D

@humbug - I know what you mean... you like their products so you want to stay loyal but there becomes a point when it's counter productive to stay loyal if you know what I mean. :)

Yes i do and i agree with you.
 
The fact is, AMD can't directly compete with Intel right now. Just look at how much profit the two companies make. So they did the smart thing, instead of just following the same path, trying to just make strong powerful cores, they instead went for a completely different architecture. Before, the only difference between the two companies really was price/performance. Intel had the speed crown, AMD had the price. But by creating CPUs which work in a completely different way, they have created a markable difference. Sure, the architecture didn't start off as strong as anyone would have liked, but their module/core theme has really differentiated them from intel, and while Intel still have the fastest CPUs, there's more reasons to pick AMD cpus, especially in the future once they are performing a little better.
 
The fact is, AMD can't directly compete with Intel right now. Just look at how much profit the two companies make. So they did the smart thing, instead of just following the same path, trying to just make strong powerful cores, they instead went for a completely different architecture. Before, the only difference between the two companies really was price/performance. Intel had the speed crown, AMD had the price. But by creating CPUs which work in a completely different way, they have created a markable difference. Sure, the architecture didn't start off as strong as anyone would have liked, but their module/core theme has really differentiated them from intel, and while Intel still have the fastest CPUs, there's more reasons to pick AMD cpus, especially in the future once they are performing a little better.

The problem is Piledriver is still 5% slower clock for clock / core for core than my 30 month old Thuban.

Yes Piledriver will get 4.8Ghz where Thuban will only get 4.1Ghz, but it needs that just to beat it by a bit if at all in low threaded apps.

I can't help but feel that the K10 architecture with a DIE shrink, upgraded instruction sets (one 256Bit thread per core) and a couple of other tweaks would have been a much faster CPU than Piledriver, more power efficient and near enough kept pace with Intel.

AMD went way backwards with Bulldozer, fixed it a bit with Piledriver while still playing catch with its own much older architecture.

Just build me a revised, updated, DIE shrunk K10.

Edit- i'm off topic, sorry...
 
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Anyone know if the memory management issues could be causing the weird stutter I get in The Witcher 2?

Far Cry 3 and Mass Effect 3 all run perfectly smooth, but I get like a tiny stutter every now and again when panning in TW2.

Tried various fixes, D3DOverrider triple buffering, frame limiting dll file, anything I have managed to find online, but still it persists.

If the issues could be on AMD's side, then I at least know to stop trying to fix the unfixable and wait for them to release a patch.

7950 btw.
 
Anyone know if the memory management issues could be causing the weird stutter I get in The Witcher 2?

Far Cry 3 and Mass Effect 3 all run perfectly smooth, but I get like a tiny stutter every now and again when panning in TW2.

Tried various fixes, D3DOverrider triple buffering, frame limiting dll file, anything I have managed to find online, but still it persists.

If the issues could be on AMD's side, then I at least know to stop trying to fix the unfixable and wait for them to release a patch.

7950 btw.

It could be, i think its an issue in certain games more than others. I don't think its a big issue overall, but definitely one that needs to be addressed soon.

I've not played the game in question, but have you tried using vsync, triple buffering and then using an fps cap of 2 fps below your monitors vsync refresh rate, so for a 60hz monitor that would be 58. That has smoothed out every single game i play so your frame times stay between 17.2ms and 25ms.
 
Anyone know if the memory management issues could be causing the weird stutter I get in The Witcher 2?

Far Cry 3 and Mass Effect 3 all run perfectly smooth, but I get like a tiny stutter every now and again when panning in TW2.

Tried various fixes, D3DOverrider triple buffering, frame limiting dll file, anything I have managed to find online, but still it persists.

If the issues could be on AMD's side, then I at least know to stop trying to fix the unfixable and wait for them to release a patch.

7950 btw.
Ubersampling disabled or enabled?
 
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