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AMD OWNERS ONLY what cpu do you have
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Caporegime
That's why people should look at benchmarks to see what's best for their usage.
Benchmarks that are a measurement of real world usage that is.
Soldato
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Hate is a strong word...but I don't think there's any good enough reason to like the BD, even for AMD fans. Gaming performance wise, a BD at 4.0GHz is only around as fast as Phenom II at around 3.4GHz. Even for AMD loyalists, BD is simply not the "upgrade" they've waited and hoped for after using Phenom II for couple of years, and has forced the fans that refuse to use Intel with no good upgrade, after all these time since the launch of Phenom II X4/X6. Buying BD, it is would be like buying a 2009 performance CPU in 2012.
Generally speaking, Bulldozer being ridiculed is not because of being slower than Intel, but more because of despite being a 2011 AMD flagship CPU, it is slower than a 2009 AMD flagship CPU in gaming. Instead of moving forward, performance moved backward...
Anyway, I think it is unrealistic to start a thread about CPU on the CPU forum and expect people to not say a single word regarding performance, since it is what CPU means to people...I mean just like the Nvidia GTX480 back then, despite it beat the 5870 by quite a large margin, people keep making jokes about cooking an eye on it. It's just to way it is...when people will always critise a product when it's not what the consumer wants.
And judging from your join date, you clearly don't realise Martini was using Phenom II X4 and then upgraded to X6 (if my memory serves me right). He probably wished Bulldozer to be competitive against Intel's just as much as everyone else, but probably because of Bulldozer hugely underperformed, it force him to jump boat and went Intel instead. In my opinion, it is AMD's own fault for pushing one of the loyal consumers into the open arms of Intel...
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But he didn't bash AMD he bashed a specific part of their line up and praised another???
Not exactly hating on certain manufacturer, bit like me saying I hate Mr Kiplings Apple pies but enjoyed eating a rhubarb and custard one from same maker. Doesnt turn me into a Mr Kipling hater and a Aunt Bessy fan boy...
Not exactly hating on certain manufacturer, bit like me saying I hate Mr Kiplings Apple pies but enjoyed eating a rhubarb and custard one from same maker. Doesnt turn me into a Mr Kipling hater and a Aunt Bessy fan boy...
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Caporegime
What AMD bashing?
Are people being thick of purpose today?
I didn't even bash BD to be fair.
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I use a Llano for everyday work (browsing, writing, etc) and watching movies.
A8-3870K
Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4H
4 GB DDR3 (I may upgrade to 8 GB)
Integrated graphics
My other systems are both Intel and primarily used for folding. The Llano is a great system with low power consumption, but can't compete with the others for raw performance (I didn't build it for performance).
A8-3870K
Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4H
4 GB DDR3 (I may upgrade to 8 GB)
Integrated graphics
My other systems are both Intel and primarily used for folding. The Llano is a great system with low power consumption, but can't compete with the others for raw performance (I didn't build it for performance).
For those that want to fight about whether AMD or Intel are the best, that's not what this thread is about. the OP just wanted an idea of what AMD prorcessors people usee as there is much moree talk about how good Intel are. It wasn't an attempt to rehash all the old arguements about who has the best computer or processor.
Doh lol sorry!When one performs differently to the other, how is it a personal opinion?
Although I do agree with "They're CPU's", which is why I get confused why people grow such attachments to a company.
EDIT : @ Zuban, I agree with the singling out.
Take ; http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22296410&postcount=6
OP says nothing.
Quoted the wrong thing
But cheers lol.
Mods should clean out the un-needed comments in this thread and get back onto topic.
are you sure, check post number 3 in the thread, it just backfired on him is all. He sort of derailed his own thread by getting upset with martini1991 when there was no reason to. Its a fact of life that not everyone is going to agree on everything best not to get bogged down in arguing about it. I particularly like the idea that telling someone to go out, get drunk and get laid, will somehow fix there opinion lol, thats hilarious
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Soldato
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Generally speaking, a topic on this nature on forum won't stay on track most of the time...just like back then when someone ask for graphic card recommendation on the graphic card forum, it ALWAYS get derailed by people into how the lack of VRAM on Nvidia cards will/will not cause performance to suffer...
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Soldato
In a topic where someone asked to know what AMD CPUs people currently used. It's moved onto a completely unrelated point, lol.
Currently using a 965BE in my ITX setup, warranty replacement for my dead 955 which I'd owned since release.
I'd downgrade to a lower power CPU but this thing is fairly worthless now. As well keeping it until it can't run anything at all.
Currently using a 965BE in my ITX setup, warranty replacement for my dead 955 which I'd owned since release.
I'd downgrade to a lower power CPU but this thing is fairly worthless now. As well keeping it until it can't run anything at all.
Pretty sure there will be a load of justification thrown in, about how it's necessary to keep consumers in the know. Then the record will skip and go back to the start of the unrelated point.
Caporegime
Nothing between them? you call the 2500K running at 4.5Ghz and beaten by a 4Ghz Thuban nothing between them?
Mate, this is what constitutes as nothing between them.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/battlefield-3-vga-and-cpu-performance-benchmark-test/3
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2500k oc'd as in sig. Runs whatever I throw at it
Caporegime
The point is he jumps on it at every opportunity, he can not leave it alone. a bit like an Internet troll he bounces into every thread and makes his valid and invalid points even if the discussion is only very loosely connected to anything like it.
Even i have noticed him more than any other with AMD hatting, just about every single post he makes is the same, you can be an AMD hatting troll by constantly repeating what is already known or try and bamboozle you in other ways in which all is not good with utter nonsense technicalities, he has a couple of them already......
Its like a nursery on this forum sometimes, its shame full...
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Soldato
AMD 965 Phenom II x4 @3.4GHz
AMD 1Gb 5870 @ stock
Asus Crosshair formula IV
4Gb Ram
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 hard drives
60Gb corsair SSD
OCZ 600W modular power supply
Titan Fenrir heatsink
Xigmatek Utgard case
Runs like a dream. Though I will probably upgrade the cpu, motherboard, graphics, ram, cooling, power, and SSD sometime early in the new year
AMD 1Gb 5870 @ stock
Asus Crosshair formula IV
4Gb Ram
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 hard drives
60Gb corsair SSD
OCZ 600W modular power supply
Titan Fenrir heatsink
Xigmatek Utgard case
Runs like a dream. Though I will probably upgrade the cpu, motherboard, graphics, ram, cooling, power, and SSD sometime early in the new year
Soldato
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The biggest problem is the OP has no intent for discussion, and only interested in hearing what he wants to hear.
For example, if I was to say:
"My Athlon 64 3500+ is great, because it creamed what Intel had to offer (Pentium 4) at the time, and is still serving me in one of the non-primary rig uo to today; while the Phenom II X4 performance fell short of the first gen i5/i7, it made up on the low budget front, and made it an attractive choice, as it was around £100~£200 to build the AMD system; but the Bulldozer on the other hand...there's little reason to go for it, not only is it far behind what Intel's offering on the simliar price level, but it is slower than its predecessor on gaming performance. If I had 1100T CPU AMD system, and someone offered to give me £50 to part-exchange their FX8120 CPU AMD system with mine, I would even consider it."
Despite the above is complete unbiased opinion, it would mean very little to the OP, as he would have no intent to keep anything he don't like hearing in his mind, and think I'm an Intel fanboy just because I'm currently using Intel's i5 2500K. There's far too many people calling people that criticise BD Intel fanboy...but how are they Intel fanboy, "if" during their next upgrade in couple years time AMD is ahead of Intel, they wouldn't think twice before ditching Intel and go AMD?
AMD hating? Before he went to Intel route, he was using Phenom II X4/X6 and he was quite please and proud of their performance because they were GOOD CPUs back in 2009~2010. But is Bulldozer a good CPU in 2011~2012? No...it is a failure as a product no matter how you look at it, mostly because of its design doesn't performance well on what the consumers use it for. Not only that, the launch was delayed by 9 months, and people put that faith on AMD and bought AM3+ board before the BD was available was stucked.
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errr sorry haven't seen him hating on amd at all, he hasn't said anything worse about bulldozer than I have and no one has said anything about the things I've said, I'm not one for getting involved in these kind of arguments but seriously this whole witch hunt against martini1991 is just plain weird, he's constantly saying how good the phenom II chips are and using that as a measurement for bulldozer, something many others have done aswell.
Caporegime
I just made a comment about Humbugs reference to his Thuban mashing a 2500k, by emphasising the point from my own experience, going one further stating how my 1055T had a bigger margin against the 2500k.
From then it's been extrapolated I'm a troll who hates AMD?
From then it's been extrapolated I'm a troll who hates AMD?
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