Soldato
Just wondering, have you actually used FSR on AMD hardware or basing your opinion on paid for reviews?
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AMD RDNA 2 potential longevity concerns?
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Just wondering, have you actually used FSR on AMD hardware or basing your opinion on paid for reviews?
Soldato
I've used both and imo dlss is superior "overall" for these reasons:
- dlss replaces the default AA i.e. usually TAA which means better temporal stability, better motion clarity (from my testing), less shimmering, less jaggies, works much better across various resolutions more so 1440P and lesser res., also, the various dlss modes are more usable overall than fsr modes i.e. at 4k, you can use pretty much all of them except maybe ultra performance and still get very good IQ on the whole and for 1440p, you can use quality or balanced and still get good IQ
- FSR relies on native AA techniques and as a result of it being a spatial upscaler, it then enhances any existing aritfacts in the image so if the default native aa has shimmering, jaggies, temporal stability issues, motion ghosting issues etc. this will be enhanced further, FSR is very good at 4k but only UQ and Q mode from my testing, FSR at 1440p is not great, certainly wouldn't use anything less than UQ preset
However, having said that, FSR in cp 2077 is very good, first game where I have been impressed with it and UQ at 1440p actually looks good.
I think this blurry image could be the poster bear for both DLSS and FSR. One mascot for everyone to get focused on, or not as the case may be!
I can't tell which one is native and which is FSR
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I've used DLSS quite extensively to hit 144Hz @ 1440P when my card couldn't do it without (these were mostly more recent titles that used DLSS 2.0). Admittedly I've not used FSR anywhere near as much, and most of my experience has been experimenting with it in the Riftbreaker, but even at the highest quality settings it did produce a much softer image than I was expecting. I'm not totally writing off FSR and perhaps it works better in other games, but there is no denying that DLSS is going to be the better choice of the two for the time being.
Soldato
Bottom line, if you bought AMD of this gen for ray tracing, you bought the wrong product.
With respect, everyone knew this, so I am not really sure on the value here. It has last gen RT.
By the time you will want to use RT for most games, these cards perf will be defunct anyway.
With respect, everyone knew this, so I am not really sure on the value here. It has last gen RT.
By the time you will want to use RT for most games, these cards perf will be defunct anyway.
Soldato
So thats nothing under the 3070/6700XT then
Soldato
Yeah it's almost like AMD and Nvidia thought about this when designing the cards so they could get you to upgrade when the new cards arrive
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Soldato
Will 30 series owners upgrade, like they did from the 20 series which was just a terrible for RT? You had a £1099 card that was then made redundant by the £469 3070 if all you are interested in is DLSS/RT.
Isn't it the same thing you are asking, the re: the longevity?
I'd love to know what the situation would have been like in the consumer focused gaming market had it not been for these shortages, I mean you saw people dumping those 2080 TI's for under £500 on the MM for a while, almost in a panic about how much they had been screwed over, which funnily enough was due to the fact RDNA2 existed and for once AMD would be competitive with Nvidia again, regardless of the RT function.
Personally (not a gamer anymore really) unless you include strategy games where graphics count for 1% of the game, but it seems like I am living back in the SNES/Mega drive days when people would argue over which console had better graphics, in other words pointless stupid playground arguments, except this time it is being held by grown people, not children, I think.
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Soldato
but it seems like I am living back in the SNES/Mega drive days when people would argue over which console had better graphics, in other words pointless stupid playground arguments, except this time it is being held by grown people, not children, I think.
thats been the case on this forum for the last 20 years its nothing new
happens every release whether it be AMD has better image quality then Nvidia or Nvidia has better RT.Thought with your join date you would have noticed this a long time ago
Soldato
Thought with your join date you would have noticed this a long time ago
I noticed it more with the new RT/DLSS generation of hardware to be honest. Anyhow off to play Stunt Race FX on my SNES, you can go back to your Mega poop drive, loser.
vram is the least of concerns amd users have. generally poor drivers, poor overall architecture and poor efficiency are just some of the limitations with amd cards before you get to vram.
Huh what's with the misinformation ? , have you owned one ? Drivers are not poor also they are actually more efficient look at the power used to performance lol
Will 30 series owners upgrade, like they did from the 20 series which was just a terrible for RT? You had a £1099 card that was then made redundant by the £469 3070 if all you are interested in is DLSS/RT.
Isn't it the same thing you are asking, the re: the longevity?
I'd love to know what the situation would have been like in the consumer focused gaming market had it not been for these shortages, I mean you saw people dumping those 2080 TI's for under £500 on the MM for a while, almost in a panic about how much they had been screwed over, which funnily enough was due to the fact RDNA2 existed and for once AMD would be competitive with Nvidia again, regardless of the RT function.
Personally (not a gamer anymore really) unless you include strategy games where graphics count for 1% of the game, but it seems like I am living back in the SNES/Mega drive days when people would argue over which console had better graphics, in other words pointless stupid playground arguments, except this time it is being held by grown people, not children, I think.
I think you kind of missed the point of this thread
I think some have missed the point of this thread given all the posts/threads surrounding "vram issues/longevity" and "amd finewine longevity"
So I guess we can safely say that vram is a complete non issue now then as well?
Soldato
I think you kind of missed the point of this thread
Didn't you just totally avoid answering the question though? The longevity of the 20 series of only looking for RT was abysmal at best, or do you some how disagree?
20 series still has decent non rt performance.