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what are you comparing thats 10% faster for 10% cheaper? my 6800mba was 600 when i brough it, my 7800xt non mba was 530, the 7800xt is not 10% faster than a 6800.. the 7800xt competes with the 6800xt which isnt 10% faster than a 6800..
Compared to Nvidia's overpriced 4000 series.
ah ok, sorry i read it as 6000 vs 7000
i understand that, but at the end of the day both companies will do anything they can to make money, they both have time and time again. so if they can die shrink to make up for the performance loss by going down the stack they will. we cant say they should do this or that since we dont make them, we dont even know likely 60% of whats involved in making a gpu form start to end. we can guess but none of us truly know unless any of us have been involved. if amd can save **** tons of rnd to do this, why wouldnt they, they dont have the same budget as nvidia and nvidia only cares about pure profits. again they both do. and end of the day we dont live in an ideal world.
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i dont agree with what they are doing at all by the way. just trying to show that these companies will rob us blind in any way they canI get that but in the end just as they care about their pockets,I only care about mine. Companies can try to charge endless amounts of stuff,but how is that sustainable when huge amounts of consumer spending in Europe and the US are driven by debt? Most people's income is not even going up properly with inflation. Interest rates are going up and the era of cheap debt is coming to the end. In a few years this will affect the corporate side of things as many companies can't keep borrowing cheaply to expand.
ATM,what we are seeing is too much money being printed due to the Pandemic,etc and its working it's way through the system and causing inflationary problems. But the issue is a lot of that money printed didn't end up in the pockets of the general public - the Pandemic has seen a huge amount of taxpayers money being pushed upwards. To put in context the wealthy have increased their wealth by trillions of dollars more during more than 99% of the human race during the Pandemic:
Near $1 trillion Euros have been spent on energy support schemes in Europe:
Europe's spend on energy crisis nears 800 billion euros
European countries' bill to shield households and companies from soaring energy costs has climbed to nearly 800 billion euros, researchers said on Monday, urging countries to be more targeted in their spending to tackle the energy crisis.
This is why taxation is getting worse and worse for us plebs. We are paying for all this printed and borrowed money.
It seems since the Pandemic,the sheer greed of many industries,and any slight pretence of them being "nice" to customers(or even their workers) has finally gone away.
TLDR: I would rather be without than pay extortionate prices for these products.
The whole stock market system is a Ponzi scheme. Eventually it will need a reset. There is more and more consolidation and less competition. Profits can't go on endlessly. They've tried to prop it up with more and more consumers but that's not sustainable, especially with dropping birth rates, hence you need to bring in new people to increase the base of the pyramid.I get that but in the end just as they care about their pockets,I only care about mine. Companies can try to charge endless amounts of stuff,but how is that sustainable when huge amounts of consumer spending in Europe and the US are driven by debt? Most people's income is not even going up properly with inflation. Interest rates are going up and the era of cheap debt is coming to the end. In a few years this will affect the corporate side of things as many companies can't keep borrowing cheaply to expand.
ATM,what we are seeing is too much money being printed due to the Pandemic,etc and its working it's way through the system and causing inflationary problems. But the issue is most of that money printed didn't end up in the pockets of the general public - the Pandemic has seen a huge amount of taxpayers money being pushed upwards. To put in context the wealthy have increased their wealth by trillions of dollars more during more than 99% of the human race during the Pandemic:
Near $1 trillion Euros have been spent on energy support schemes in Europe:
Europe's spend on energy crisis nears 800 billion euros
European countries' bill to shield households and companies from soaring energy costs has climbed to nearly 800 billion euros, researchers said on Monday, urging countries to be more targeted in their spending to tackle the energy crisis.
It seems since the Pandemic,the sheer greed of many industries,and any pretence of them being "nice" to customers has gone away.
TLDR: I would rather be without than pay extortionate prices for these products.
