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AMD Readies A10-7890K, A8-7690K and Athlon X4 880K Socket FM2+ Chips

I never actually noticed any of these articles about the 7890k, 880k, 845 etc:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10103/amd-launches-the-a107890k-and-athlon-x4-880k

It is a real shame that they don't offer an unlocked 845 version, but I wonder if they think it will harm sales of the other unlocked APU's and athlons.

I really can't see myself spending almost 100 bucks for an 880k though, when I barely paid much more than that for a 7850k when it was the top APU.
 
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Is it worth upgrading an A8-3870K FM1 to an FM2+ A10-7870/7890K? It's just for a gaming machine at 1680x1050 mainly CS:GO but while some reviews are suggesting I might see upto 50% improvement a few others are saying the 3870K is fractionally better.

I want to free up his board and apu for a freeNAS build, but have a Zyxel 310 NSA that is fine. Should I upgrade or wait until the Zen APU releases next year?
 
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Are you using the IGP still??

If so get a graphics card.

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If you can wait a few more months,the AM4 Bristol Ridge APUs will be released. Zen will be CPU only until next year when the APUs will be released on APU.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Are you using the IGP still??

If so get a graphics card.
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it's my lads machine and had a 670gtx which I nabbed when my 770 died. He can't play Ark any more (haven't tried tbh) but the IGP actually still does a stellar job. I'm only after freeing up parts to build a freenas if there's a noticeable jump, otherwise I'd hold out for Zen. I'm still shocked how well Llano is performing.
 
chippy08 said:
I cant wait until next year for the Apu i have the upgrade itch now.
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APUs next year and CPUs Q4 2016 AFAIK.

sexyhyde said:
it's my lads machine and had a 670gtx which I nabbed when my 770 died. He can't play Ark any more (haven't tried tbh) but the IGP actually still does a stellar job. I'm only after freeing up parts to build a freenas if there's a noticeable jump, otherwise I'd hold out for Zen. I'm still shocked how well Llano is performing.
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My GTX960 ran ARK worse than an R9 280!! :(

If I were you,I would give the CPU a slight overclock if the board and cooling is OK and plonk in a GTX750TI or GTX950 into it.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
If I were you,I would give the CPU a slight overclock if the board and cooling is OK and plonk in a GTX750TI or GTX950 into it.
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The 3870k is fine. I'm not looking to bump the graphics, I'm looking to free up the APU and mobo for a freenas build, but only want to do it if I'm getting gains from a new APU.
 
sexyhyde said:
The 3870k is fine. I'm not looking to bump the graphics, I'm looking to free up the APU and mobo for a freenas build, but only want to do it if I'm getting gains from a new APU.
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Had a look at a review comparing the last few generations,and in some cases the IGP performance increase is quite decent:

http://www.ixbt.com/cpu/amd-fm2p-met2014.shtml
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/446...nchmarks-igpu-hitman-absolution-1920x1080-low

The A10 7850K and A10 7860K are around £90.

Having said that the X4 845 and a £50 discrete card might do the job too.

Bristol Ridge is meant to be released in the next few months on AM4 which is the socket Zen will use.
 
Scougar said:
What gains do you want from an apu then?????
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I want improved graphics from an APU, I don't want to add in a GFX card to achieve it, as I want to have a mobo and apu for a freenas (or htpc) setup. This should be achieveable for £150ish (apu/mobo/ram)
If I do plump for a GFX card it's going to be for my main rig and move the 670gtx into the lads machine, I have an i5 with no IGP so I want to have at least one machine with a decent IGP incase a GFX card dies.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Had a look at a review comparing the last few generations,and in some cases the IGP performance increase is quite decent:

http://www.ixbt.com/cpu/amd-fm2p-met2014.shtml
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/446...nchmarks-igpu-hitman-absolution-1920x1080-low

The A10 7850K and A10 7860K are around £90.

Having said that the X4 845 and a £50 discrete card might do the job too.

Bristol Ridge is meant to be released in the next few months on AM4 which is the socket Zen will use.
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Cheers!

I know the drivers now have given the 3870K a bump as it performs a lot better than I remember before it's stint with the 670GTX, I didn't do too bad with Llano considering it's short life, but don't know whether I want to risk it with FM2+, considering the new Zen stuff is coming. I think the gains are not enough.

What socket will the new Zen APU be using?
 
Yeah, you had me confused because you said: "...I'm not looking to bump the graphics..."

OK... so basically a 7850K is probably where you want to be. You can even overclock the iGPU to get even better performance. I would say though that having 2133 or 2400Mhz memory is a MASSIVE bonus for the iGPU with these APU's. Anything higher than the 7850k just isn't worth it from a iGPU stand point as they don't increase graphics performance above that.

Please note that when using the iGPU the 7850k loves to throttle down to 3GHZ stupidly. You can get around this with a tweak that alters the power settings in windows to keep it full speed, but it can be a hassle to get it setup right. I would still recommend the 7850K though.

I would not consider the 7860k as it just doesn't have the iGPU grunt.

Obviously consider if it's worth it to get an APU rather than discrete gfx card.
 
AM4 is the new socket. The later AMD APUs released after the A10 7850K have better stock coolers and use solder instead of TIM:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10008/amd-launches-65w-kaveri-apus-a10-7860k-a6-7470k-wraith

The A10 7860K is basically an A10 7850K with a better cooler,solder instead of TIM and a lower TDP. The one review I saw of it looked weird - I suspect BIOS issues.

Bristol Ridge is not Zen based but uses the new socket and DDR4.

It basically uses Excavator CPU cores found in Carrizo but supposedly with some IPC improvements. It will also have the newer IGP from Carrizo with cooler compression and H265 playback support.
 
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Scougar said:
Yeah, you had me confused because you said: "...I'm not looking to bump the graphics..."

OK... so basically a 7850K is probably where you want to be. You can even overclock the iGPU to get even better performance. I would say though that having 2133 or 2400Mhz memory is a MASSIVE bonus for the iGPU with these APU's. Anything higher than the 7850k just isn't worth it from a iGPU stand point as they don't increase graphics performance above that.

Please note that when using the iGPU the 7850k loves to throttle down to 3GHZ stupidly. You can get around this with a tweak that alters the power settings in windows to keep it full speed, but it can be a hassle to get it setup right. I would still recommend the 7850K though.

I would not consider the 7860k as it just doesn't have the iGPU grunt.

Obviously consider if it's worth it to get an APU rather than discrete gfx card.
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While I did consider 7850K over the 7870K for a while, I was reading about the thermal contact material not being as good as the 7870K which has a soldered lid. Then you have the 7890K which will be available with the new Wraith cooler, which keeps me from using a rubbish stock cooler or bump price up getting a decent aftermarket cooler.

I think I might just plump for a good Zen build for myself with GFX and bump my build down to the lad. It's just I fancied a nice little mod/upgrade build. Oh well it can wait it seems.

Thanks for all the help.
 
Silly question, but how does the A10-7870k do for gaming if paired with a 770?

My OH wants to upgrade her machine and was looking as this chip and chucking her my graphics card etc. Will it cope ok for games like Witcher 3/Fallout 4 @ 1080.

Cheers.
 
maun said:
Silly question, but how does the A10-7870k do for gaming if paired with a 770?

My OH wants to upgrade her machine and was looking as this chip and chucking her my graphics card etc. Will it cope ok for games like Witcher 3/Fallout 4 @ 1080.
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Bad idea, the iGPU will be wasted. You want something like the Athlon X4 860K instead. For £60 it's not bad.
 
As above, look to get the 860k or 880k when it comes out, as these don't have graphics built in, so you won't be paying for something you won't use.

Note, I only have an APU because I wanted a system without a gfx card that I could play games on, until I saved enough for a discrete card.
 
Thanks for the replies chaps, much appreciated.

Another quickie, would the 860k be an improvement over her aging i5-750?

Cheers again.
 
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