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Amd RX-7400 8gb

sastusbulbas

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Seen some news regarding this, a low power GPU that requires no external power with 8gb of memory.

Currently we have the 3050 6gb that uses 75w of PCIe lane power, from what I read the AMD 7400 uses less power but seems to state a 450w PSU requirement unlike the 300w limit of the 3050, but it never had any sort of gaming status from memory, I can't actually remember any sort of budget gaming CPU like the 1050ti days that anyone recomemnded as a budget gaming choice.

Not sure how this will compare to current integrated GPU's, but it did remind me of the old budget 1080p gaming days where you could actually get an enjoyable game out of the likes of a GTX 1050ti on some quite mediocre hardware. I remember playing with the 1050ti myself for a couple of my kids builds, I'm sure I used the G3258 Pentium Dual core aniversary chip, then later an i3 as they ventured into the world of cheap garish keyboards. It may even have been on an old E8600 before the 4 core or 2 core plus two thread requirement I seem to think happened in Battlefield days, that could be my head getting mixed up.

I ended up using those old 1050ti's in low power builds for playing with stuff like Ubuntu, both are still running on old Q9550 systems with 350w/450w PSU's that I keep making excuses to keep.

Seeing the RX-7400 did make me wonder if there was a chance of a new budget gaming limit that could be set with modern hardware much like we had with the old 1050ti, but am I just reminiscing here and are those days long gone? It was rather fun to get the cheapest PC you could build to play online games, even if it did just end up being relegated to an old box you occasionally tried Linux on.
 
sastusbulbas said:
Seeing the RX-7400 did make me wonder if there was a chance of a new budget gaming limit that could be set with modern hardware much like we had with the old 1050ti, but am I just reminiscing here and are those days long gone? It was rather fun to get the cheapest PC you could build to play online games, even if it did just end up being relegated to an old box you occasionally tried Linux on.
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The closest we had in recent times to a budget card (every tier has moved up on price, unfortunately) would be the RX 6600 and then now, Arc B580.

They're very capable cards, can play pretty much anything, though the RX 6600's level of performance is around a 1080, so nearly 10 years old now.

The 7400 looks like it'll have very similar specs to the 6600, so will be interesting to see the price and performance.
 
The big appeal is simply that low power with no need for a cable. If around £150 it would certainly spark my interest in maybe building a new budget PC to replace those old Q9550/1050ti systems. Maybe even a smaller ITX.
 
sastusbulbas said:
The big appeal is simply that low power with no need for a cable. If around £150 it would certainly spark my interest in maybe building a new budget PC to replace those old Q9550/1050ti systems. Maybe even a smaller ITX.
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Yeah, if it doesn't lose much performance due to the power limit, it could be decent. The RX 6600 was only ~120 watts, so maybe with improvements this will have similar performance.
 
Looks like it won't be available outside of prebuilds from the likes of Dell, at least initially.

As long as it's not another RX 6400 situation, this should be quite decent for these tiny PC builds if low profile version is available.

There's also Intel Arc B380 that should be available soon, with 16 Xe2 cores (twice as much as A380 + architectural improvements, assuming it's going to be the consumer version of Arc Pro B50, just like how A380 is the consumer version of Arc Pro A50) along with 8GB of VRAM, it could be the better option if it's priced decently.

I just want an inexpensive PCIe powered option that's not RTX 3050 6GB for my other build.
 
Man, people seem happy to spend way more than they should on weaker GPUs.
Maybe at £120 or less, but anything more and that would be a strong "lol".
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Man, people seem happy to spend way more than they should on weaker GPUs.
Maybe at £120 or less, but anything more and that would be a strong "lol".
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People already overspend on GPUs with above MSRP prices.

They also overspend on overkill CPUs and GPUs.

Meanwhile there are also people out there building small PCs for the fun of it or other uses which will never see a game.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Maybe at £120 or less, but anything more and that would be a strong "lol".
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Never going to happen. 1050Ti was the last "good" GPU at a "cheap" price ($139 or around £150 here).

That was almost 10 years ago. The world has unfortunately moved on (and not in a good way), with inflationary pressures meaning that there is no way something similar now will cost that. £150 now is "GT 1030" money at best.
 
Used to like the idea of slot powered gpus for small, light gaming machines.

But these days, if you spend the money, you can get an APU with a really nice igpu which does all that in a very compact way. Got a tiny minisforum box running some games (within its capabilities, not RT monstrosities at 4K).

There's clearly potential to have more performance with a 75W limit for graphics but now your computer is guaranteed to be several times bigger than an APU based arrangement.
 
43W TDP / 55W Typical Board Power


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AMD launches Radeon RX 7400, designed for 'advanced gaming' with 43W GPU power - VideoCardz.com

Radeon RX 7400 now official, the last taste of desktop RDNA3? Nearly identical specs to PRO version released this week as well. Two days ago, we reported on the Radeon PRO W7400 graphics card, a desktop GPU based on the Navi 33 (RDNA3) architecture that offers an even lower TBP than existing...
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Emlyn_Dewar said:
I would hope these people would not be considering buying one of these cards then. Integrated graphics exist, and are pretty good.
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You need to get out of that bubble, some people are using systems with no integrated GPU.

Even basic video editing and rendering could be handled by the 7400 and 8gb of integrated memory is a welcome boost.

On a budget you would be looking at an 8700g for integrated GPU use. But then your small 350w systems memory will need shared. And some weire already preferring basic GPUs over that.

Regardless, some want to play with low power low cost items, a GPU with 8gb of memory capable of very basic 1080p gaming and video, using under 50w, sounds fun for many who simply play with old system or limited hardware.
 
I agree with you, but the problem is, most of the time these things miss the low cost mark for a good while.

Just checked the techpower page, and had to have a laugh at the codname... "Hotpink Bonefish" :D

Not really in a bubble though, as for very small new systems. Most likely there will be some form of basic GPU integrated.
I love SFF by the way!
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
I would hope these people would not be considering buying one of these cards then. Integrated graphics exist, and are pretty good.
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You need to get out of that bubble, some people are using systems with no integrated GPU. Or simply don't game but want a better option than integrated GPU.

Such cards do exist for a reason.

Obviously if it's overpriced it's a dead donkey., but it will still sell because people do buy old desktops with no PCIe power cable options or simply want a separate GPU that doesn't need a power cable from a power supply .
 
If it's all about running a PC as low as it goes on power/cost then you want to get yourself an Asus Rog Ally or similar, dock it and connect it to a monitor/Tv, it can even run games from 12w to 30w.

If a game's Steam deck approved, it's likely going to run on an Ally etc.

Next round of handhelds are launching so Ally etc is probably going to drop in price further.
 
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