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AMD RX6000 vs Nvidia Ampere performance benchmarks (from AMD's website and compiled by Redditor)

Bergkamp said:
Must just be people from Northern Ireland that get this.
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Almost! (Technically I am a blow in, wife is from here but I have lived here for ten year, double that if you include time spent over for family visits). I suppose they have to catch themselves on! ;)
 
Tiny_D said:
People complain and expect AMD to produce more than or at least equal to Nvidia performance but prices for less or it's not acceptable. Madness.
Then the rest complain AMD is cheap and only buy Nvidia cause the higher prices mean a better quality product.

I just sit back n throw popcorn laughing at stupid and nod knowingly at the few who get it as we await Darwin to take effect.
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Mate this revving of nonsense has been on this forum for at least 10 years probably more. I still lose the will to live with the troglodytes cantering on with the nvidia are expensive as theres no competition from AMD. You point out the black and white and they dont accept it. Its a two horse race, wont change much when intel get in the mix, you know why? They know how to milk the markets and parts, labour, fabs, R&D, marketing blah blah all mean they cant sell they for rock bottom prices anymore. They know what your willing to spend, plenty of data to prove it, they even know geographically what to charge been doing it for years. The time to vote with the wallets has long gone. The muppets that bought Ti's and Titans shifted the goal posts to £700 and beyond, if you want the best im afraid you gotta pay the going rate until something rocks the boat massively.
 
james.miller said:
...Soooo your answer to my question on why people aren't talking about it..is to go look up the numbers myself. Is that what you did when you decided what the numbers represented? Common sense, right?

Weird response. Weird thread.


On the front page for the rx6000 series*

AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series Graphics Cards | AMD

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And before you ask, the numbers they show for gears 5 on the 'select a game' page are lower than they are on the front page.

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* (and all over their presentation slides as well)
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Did you check footnotes 5/6/7?
..and compare them with settings shown in panel results
If you're hairsplitting atleast do it correctly :)

Btw you completely ignored my advice to cross-reference geforce numbers shown by AMD.

As for my position, i find it extremely weird to assume that a single frame max fps is being used by AMD in official benchmarks, so I won't be bothered to even look those geforce numbers up.
 
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Th0nt said:
Mate this revving of nonsense has been on this forum for at least 10 years probably more. I still lose the will to live with the troglodytes cantering on with the nvidia are expensive as theres no competition from AMD. You point out the black and white and they dont accept it. Its a two horse race, wont change much when intel get in the mix, you know why? They know how to milk the markets and parts, labour, fabs, R&D, marketing blah blah all mean they cant sell they for rock bottom prices anymore. They know what your willing to spend, plenty of data to prove it, they even know geographically what to charge been doing it for years. The time to vote with the wallets has long gone. The muppets that bought Ti's and Titans shifted the goal posts to £700 and beyond, if you want the best im afraid you gotta pay the going rate until something rocks the boat massively.
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All very true, proven when Nvidia were like "Hey look at the 3080 its ONLY £650" knowing full well that the 3 cards they sold at that price for less than 1 second on the 17th Feb was never going to be available to the masses and the 3070's are currently being sold around that kinda money right now.. You know Nvidia's base model their lowest performing card is the same price as their labeled highest gaming msrp card.
GG Nvidiot's and to be fair the press have a large blame in this, they were all "2080Ti its overpriced but HYPE gotta have one braaa!"

But this is where people are now, the £1500 2080Ti moved minds to thinking £700-900 is GPU money, and we don't have a choice anymore....
And I realise some smart cnt is about to reply "But you do have a choice, just don't pay that or buy one", yer ok dik wad but how do I get the latest gpu to run my rig genius? So no I don't ahve a choice.
 
It’s all guff until independent unbias reviewers get the offerings from red team and green team and pit them against each other.

Then we will see if AMDs claims actually hold water. Place your bets.
 
Nablaoperator said:
As for my position, i find it extremely weird to assume that a single frame max fps is being used by AMD in official benchmarks, so I won't be bothered to even look those geforce numbers up.
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Excuse the terrible Bolding. Has any company actually done this before? Is there any precedent for this type of behaviour?

I know companies will game the system but such a move as showing max fps as average fps would surely have severe backlash.
 
Aye, I think red with red and good ram will win out, but what will be interesting is the OCed intel guff, and if nvidia works best with it.
Either way it'll be a few % at most, which is great, if we now have actual perf comparisons between them, its help competition.
No more 2000 series from nvidia, unless they want to die off as intel will.
 
It's very exciting times with these new cards, I've been team red on GPU for ages due to my not wanting to spend a ton. These offerings are great but not so great for the wallet haaaa. Hopefully, get some money back from my 590 which is only 6 months old. Happy times ahead for us buyers yippie, I am wondering how important motherboards will be too as my x570 tuf Asus died on me during lockdown. I ended up with a b450 MSI tomahawk max hope i don't need to change that to fully utilize everything.
 
neoglow said:
It’s all guff until independent unbias reviewers get the offerings from red team and green team and pit them against each other.

Then we will see if AMDs claims actually hold water. Place your bets.
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My bets are that Big Navi will at worst be roughly on a par with their Ampere counterparts, which is all I expected from them and I consider that a big success. However, it may be that a powerful Zen3 will be needed to squeeze out the extra few % of performance from them vs when they are paired with Intel rigs.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Excuse the terrible Bolding. Has any company actually done this before? Is there any precedent for this type of behaviour?

I know companies will game the system but such a move as showing max fps as average fps would surely have severe backlash.
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Thanks.
That's exactly my point
You will need to explain James Miller though
 
AMD killed off all Nvidia ampere and turing cards.
Soon they do the same with mid and low end with Big Navis the nvidia killers.
Cant wait to own the best gaming platform in the world.
zen3 and big navi
 
RBImGuy said:
AMD killed off all Nvidia ampere and turing cards.
Soon they do the same with mid and low end with Big Navis the nvidia killers.
Cant wait to own the best gaming platform in the world.
zen3 and big navi
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Though it's a great achievement, I don't want anyone getting killed.. I need my hobby in the affordable range :D
 
Launch slides always show the manufacturer in the best light.
When people are claiming a few percent either way in raster as "rip nvidia, ampere killed", then sure there will be some counter argument, as the few percent seems the difference between awesome and the worst ever :D
It was the same with the 3 series, the hype so high for an architecture that wasnt much better than Turing.

There won't be much argument between 10900k and 5900x, because it most likely will be a genuine "crushed", the rdna2 vs ampere looks to have genuine arguments from both sides depending on your preferences.

Unfortunately the 3090 is very expensive, but for myself RT and DLSS is too much of a draw compared to a few percent raster. I know it will be a minority of games, but for the few I will use it in, it will be worth it to me. Do I wish it was cheaper? Sure, but if I'm paying 50% more for 10% raster, it's not much more of a stretch for me to pay 40% for a rumoured 20-30% RT.
AMD are bringing their own version of DLSS, but I can't be sure it will be of the quality. It took a good while for nvidia to improve on it, and I suspect the same with AMD.
For me, under current information, I feel rdna2 to be like zen 2. Great cpu, but not quite there for my case use. Zen 3 on the other hand, I will be hitting f5 on Thursday :D
 
Yea, you’re only going to get a true reflection once the independent parties can review.

This specific release has so much going on with new modes and CPU level integration. At least with Zen3 looking promising, they might end up being the go to for reviewer testing.
 
Nablaoperator said:
Though it's a great achievement, I don't want anyone getting killed.. I need my hobby in the affordable range :D
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I get what you mean and I agree however AMD has made it clear that it's not a budget brand anymore. Look at how all of their products have the price increased gen over gen. Zen 2 -> Zen 3, RX 5700xt(being a fair bit cheaper than 2070s) -> RX6800 being more expensive than a 3070. I guess this is what happens when Nvidia is being stubborn with their prices and AMD wants to match.
 
Phixsator said:
I get what you mean and I agree however AMD has made it clear that it's not a budget brand anymore. Look at how all of their products have the price increased gen over gen. Zen 2 -> Zen 3, RX 5700xt(being a fair bit cheaper than 2070s) -> RX6800 being more expensive than a 3070. I guess this is what happens when Nvidia is being stubborn with their prices and AMD wants to match.
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A bit of both really. They blatantly talk to one another behind closed doors, as they can both benefit this way.
 
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