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Is AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor to a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D a big jump or waste of money ?? card i use is a RTX3070 as would like to future proof my pc a bit more as i love my ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero board so much ...
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor to a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
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Soldato
I would say big jump as when i went to the 5800X3D it was sooooo much smoother.
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Yeah it's a solid jump for not much money and would see you through a GPU upgrade.
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Big jump in performance, i went from the 3800x to the 5800x3d and noticed a big jump in fps, was a great upgrade.
Soldato
Plus the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero is an amazing motherboard and will defo last a good while paired with a 5800X3D
Need more information about the resolution and refresh rate you're trying to drive.
A trend I've noticed is that this forum seems to attract 5800X3D fan boys. I had a similar dilemma on my mind (maximising AM4) but was convinced to drop that BS down to a 5700X thanks to one person talking sense:
forums.overclockers.co.uk
I stand by that wisdom to this day, thank you @Tetras
We're now living in a world where, when things get CPU-limited, even the 7800X3D can't hit 60 fps.
When stressed in these situations, a 5800X3D is unlikely to hit 60 fps either, and in fact will likely be offering the exact same performance as a 5700X.
Deal with that 3070 first, then decide if you need to mess with your processor.
A trend I've noticed is that this forum seems to attract 5800X3D fan boys. I had a similar dilemma on my mind (maximising AM4) but was convinced to drop that BS down to a 5700X thanks to one person talking sense:
Will an upgrade now be any better than my last?
A few years ago the main game I fell in love with was Dishonored 2, on my FX-8350 and GTX 970 at a whopping 3440x1440 @ 60 Hz (I was part of the early uptake of UWQHD monitors back around 2016) A while later I upgraded everything and looked forward to revisiting the game, which I did so on my...
forums.overclockers.co.uk
I stand by that wisdom to this day, thank you @Tetras
We're now living in a world where, when things get CPU-limited, even the 7800X3D can't hit 60 fps.
When stressed in these situations, a 5800X3D is unlikely to hit 60 fps either, and in fact will likely be offering the exact same performance as a 5700X.
Deal with that 3070 first, then decide if you need to mess with your processor.
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Nothing fan boy at all lol when i upgraded to the 5800x3d i was using a 3060ti and a 3800x, the 3800x was even holding back the 3060ti in most games and i didnt realise, after the upgrade of cpu my fps shot up massively using the same card and the smoothness of every game improved also.
Honestly, upgrading the cpu is one of the best things i have done to my pc, the 5800x3d is awesome and the only reason why people that have it are praising it is, because we have seen such great improvement after installing it.
Its the best upgrade to do to the AM4 platform by miles!
Honestly, upgrading the cpu is one of the best things i have done to my pc, the 5800x3d is awesome and the only reason why people that have it are praising it is, because we have seen such great improvement after installing it.
Its the best upgrade to do to the AM4 platform by miles!
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It's all about the 1% lows for me with the 5800X3D. Frame rate just feels smoother and consistent.
Soldato
I can agree with the above comments that through ACCTUALLY using one the difference is massive.
Soldato
Please refrain from commenting unless you have actually done the move yourself.Need more information about the resolution and refresh rate you're trying to drive.
A trend I've noticed is that this forum seems to attract 5800X3D fan boys. I had a similar dilemma on my mind (maximising AM4) but was convinced to drop that BS down to a 5700X thanks to one person talking sense:
Will an upgrade now be any better than my last?
A few years ago the main game I fell in love with was Dishonored 2, on my FX-8350 and GTX 970 at a whopping 3440x1440 @ 60 Hz (I was part of the early uptake of UWQHD monitors back around 2016) A while later I upgraded everything and looked forward to revisiting the game, which I did so on my...
I stand by that wisdom to this day, thank you @Tetras
We're now living in a world where, when things get CPU-limited, even the 7800X3D can't hit 60 fps.
When stressed in these situations, a 5800X3D is unlikely to hit 60 fps either, and in fact will likely be offering the exact same performance as a 5700X.
Deal with that 3070 first, then decide if you need to mess with your processor.
There have been more than a few people that have made the move and have expressed there opinions here to which i personally agree too.
A trend I've noticed is that this forum seems to attract 5800X3D fan boys. I had a similar dilemma on my mind (maximising AM4) but was convinced to drop that BS down to a 5700X thanks to one person talking sense:
Will an upgrade now be any better than my last?
A few years ago the main game I fell in love with was Dishonored 2, on my FX-8350 and GTX 970 at a whopping 3440x1440 @ 60 Hz (I was part of the early uptake of UWQHD monitors back around 2016) A while later I upgraded everything and looked forward to revisiting the game, which I did so on my...
I stand by that wisdom to this day, thank you @Tetras
Thanks! It is an easier argument to make with Zen/Zen+ and a limited GPU budget (and especially playing at higher resolutions), that a 5600/5700X is the best move.
From a 3700X, a 5600/5700X is less of a jump and with no mention of a GPU budget, I'm less inclined to argue against it, hence I stayed out of this thread
To be honest I forgot about 1% lows on account of it being a long time since I've noticed any drop in my games. The only recent ones I've played are Cyberpunk 2077 and Last of Us Part I, and they've been silky smooth.
With my Ryzen 2700 I could have large drop offs that stayed dropped off; going in to the most crowded areas on Cyberpunk could become very CPU limited to like 40 fps on medium crowd density, with my old 5700 XT dropping to like 80% utilization. Upgrading to a Ryzen 5700X solved that - got the crowd density on high now and think I'm always GPU-bound even on a 7900 XT.
The way many of you feel about the 5800X3D is the way I feel about the 5700X.
Those who are noticing something about desktop performance being improved on a 5800X3D I really can't relate to. I've noticed no difference between an FX-8350, Ryzen 2700, and Ryzen 5700X. So long as you have an SSD and reasonably clean OS (Windows 10 is considerably faster than Windows 11 in desktop performance apparently) everything should be silky and responsive even with a potato processor.
With my Ryzen 2700 I could have large drop offs that stayed dropped off; going in to the most crowded areas on Cyberpunk could become very CPU limited to like 40 fps on medium crowd density, with my old 5700 XT dropping to like 80% utilization. Upgrading to a Ryzen 5700X solved that - got the crowd density on high now and think I'm always GPU-bound even on a 7900 XT.
The way many of you feel about the 5800X3D is the way I feel about the 5700X.
Those who are noticing something about desktop performance being improved on a 5800X3D I really can't relate to. I've noticed no difference between an FX-8350, Ryzen 2700, and Ryzen 5700X. So long as you have an SSD and reasonably clean OS (Windows 10 is considerably faster than Windows 11 in desktop performance apparently) everything should be silky and responsive even with a potato processor.
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Soldato
But without trying the 5800X3D even compared to your 5700X you will not know yourself.
And without trying the 5700X compared to your 5800X3D, you won't know either
Funnily enough I find Windows 11 to be very quick. I'm sure there is plenty about it to annoy a lot of users but I've not found it to be slow(er).
I see it was an upgrade of W10 to W11 (00:59) rather than a fresh install of W11, could be an issue. I'm running on a 7600, 32GB DDR5 6000 so that will be different from a 10850K. I like Bryan but I wouldn't use him for a benchmark reference. I held of W11 for ages after hearing talk about it but I prefer it now I've tried it YMMV
Fair dos.
Personally I doubt there'd be any serious performance difference (especially in desktop use) unless I downgraded to Windows Vista
Hoping Windows 11 will solve some controller issues I can't seem to sort in Windows 10. But as I had other compatibility issues in Windows 7 that were replicated exactly when I upgraded to Windows 10, I suspect there's even less chance Windows 11 will help this time.