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AMD teases new FX desktop chip

SR FX could eb interesting in multithread. Is more effective example in wprime 1024M, around 30% up to Piledriver. There is not botleneck with threads as Vishera (Vishera in wprime not excel, FPs are overloading and seems as 4 core than 8 core)
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You really have to wonder about the ability of the currently available range of motherboards out there to handle anything more powerful with the FX range of CPU's.

There all 2010-2011 vintage.
 
Piledriver or Kaveri based, for sure. I'd be shocked if it weren't simply an overclocked, binned version of an existing SKU. No new silicon is due until excavator APUs.
 
It's official, Amd can't compete with intel in midrange CPUS ( 4970k etc) never mind enthusiast levels ( x79 x99). I would love AMD to come out with something epic. I would be the first to buy it. AMD WAKE UP
 
digitalx said:
Isn't FM2+ older than AM3+? or is it just FM2 that is it older? Or neither..? I need to learn more on AMD CPu's
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FM2+ is AMD's newest platform.

FM2 is AMD's second newest platform.

AM3+ is AMD's third newest platform (This platform had 2 lots of CPU's, it's arguably dead, and has been for quite some time, as far as the platform goes, it's had nothing done it since about June 2011, ironically it's the flagship platform)

EDIT : Well, technically, each one of those platforms is one less new than their Jaguar SOC stuff (Their new AM1), but I didn't count it, so FM2+ would slip to second, FM2 to third, and AM3+ to fourth.
 
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AMD have the technology now to make a better faster FX CPU, I don't know by how much.

A few weeks ago I did have a conversation with a man from AMD who reported there was talk of a new line of FX CPU's, just talk. nothing confirmed. But we did agree it was high time for a better FX refresh.

I don't think this is it, but I do think this might be an update improved version of Vishera, a bit of a stop gap until an entirely new architecture, perhaps in a year or the end of 2015.

My guess is this is on 28nm (Vishera is currently on 32nm) with all the current power efficiency improvement to date, (which is actually quite a lot as I will explain) with perhaps a few minor tweaks to bring the clock for clock performance up a little.

On Power Efficiency and Performance.

Vishera (FX-83##) is the same core as the 32nm Trinity APU (A10 5800K)

The A10 6800K was the first refresh of that core, it had the same power consumption or slightly less at a higher clock rate than the A10 5800K (3.8Ghz vs 4.1Ghz)
So about <10% better power.

Kaveri (A10 7850) is the next refresh and first on 28nm, it runs much lower clocks than the A10 6800K but with the same or slightly better performance, (3.7Ghz vs 4.1Ghz) and is 20% more power efficient.

So if you add all those together, and assume this new FX CPU is the same as the Kaveri core. then what we should end up with is a CPU that is clock for clock <10% faster than the FX 8350 and use 30% less power.
 
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Thinking about it more, I have reservations about an AMD 28NM Octo Core. I don't doubt the ability for them to make one at all, I do doubt the clock speeds they'd achieve though, if they did create an 8 core Steamroller, I can't see it being drastically faster than the FX8350 already , and because they've already got an FX93XX/FX95XX with a 4.7GHZ/5GHZ speed, it might not review too well as they've already got a *faster* CPU.

A Hexcore SR 28nm chip might not have the *same* clock speed reservations, but I can't see AMD getting hyped about that (That said, this is AMD, their marketing seems to never be in contact with their engineers)

I can't see this being any more than an even higher clocked Piledriver 8 core (I'm pegging for an actual 5GHZ chip as a hopeful estimation, but it might just have a more aggressive turbo than the FX9590, so say 4.8GHZ 8 cores, 5.2GHZ lower threaded apps)

Or, and more hopefully (I'm practically grasping at straws, but I say this ONLY because Komodo was initially a 10 core? Then again, who remembers what slides were and weren't legit) I'm going to suggest it's a 10 core Vishera with TDP improvements. AMD have shown in the past that they can be very good engineers when it comes to stuff like this, Thuban 95W for example.
 
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10 core with TDP improvements would be nice. Still nothing I think to get excited about though, at least not in the next year.
 
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Thinking about it more, I have reservations about an AMD 28NM Octo Core. I don't doubt the ability for them to make one at all, I do doubt the clock speeds they'd achieve though, if they did create an 8 core Steamroller, I can't see it being drastically faster than the FX8350 already , and because they've already got an FX93XX/FX95XX with a 4.7GHZ/5GHZ speed, it might not review too well as they've already got a *faster* CPU.

A Hexcore SR 28nm chip might not have the *same* clock speed reservations, but I can't see AMD getting hyped about that (That said, this is AMD, their marketing seems to never be in contact with their engineers)

I can't see this being any more than an even higher clocked Piledriver 8 core (I'm pegging for an actual 5GHZ chip as a hopeful estimation, but it might just have a more aggressive turbo than the FX9590, so say 4.8GHZ 8 cores, 5.2GHZ lower threaded apps)

Or, and more hopefully (I'm practically grasping at straws, but I say this ONLY because Komodo was initially a 10 core? Then again, who remembers what slides were and weren't legit) I'm going to suggest it's a 10 core Vishera with TDP improvements. AMD have shown in the past that they can be very good engineers when it comes to stuff like this, Thuban 95W for example.
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Its not going to be yet another clocked Vishera, 5Ghz with a 5.2Ghz boost clock?

I also can't see it being a 10 core, the die size is already 320mm^2, 10 core would take it to atleast 400mm^2 (a CPU nearly the size of a Hawaii GPU) with insane power levels.

The most realistic thing to me seems 8 core 28nm Steamrooler, maybe 10 core if on 28nm.
 
We'll know when it surfaces.
Again, I have my reservations about the clocks they'd get on a 28nm octo core chip, a 10 core would be even worse.

Or, AMD's dramatically matured their 28nm process which would invalidate my reservations.

I'd be far more willing to put money on a higher clocked Vishera to be honest.
 
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Hex or octo on steamroller and no IGPU so the heat restraints dont force them to downclock the CPU like the kavari release and they have a purchase from me.
 
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