The benchmarks are from March 2nd and 10th!!!!!!!!!!!
That is ANCIENT. We are 3 months later, the platform had some huge updates in BIOS, Windows and games.
Even last month benchmarks are not reflecting today's performance.
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AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X
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The benchmarks are from March 2nd and 10th!!!!!!!!!!!
That is ANCIENT. We are 3 months later, the platform had some huge updates in BIOS, Windows and games.
Even last month benchmarks are not reflecting today's performance.
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Can someone please provide up to date Benchmarks, i Wonder what impact the quad channel memory + larger cache will play in threadripper. Any news on how it clocks? >.> looks at 8 pack
ah that explains it then, even with 100% scaling that's what? just over half the power of a titan Xp/1080ti?
and since the games I listed (like siege, division, fallout 4)all have fairly poor sli scaling in general, it's no wonder he didn't see a difference between the ryzen and intel.
what? you know the Windows updates and bios updates don't actually effect results much, if at all right?
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...m-overclock-windows-update-efi-updates/page-4
the best they found was a 2% performance increase, the only actual changes were to rise of the tomb raider, ashes and total war.
all the BS about bios updates and Windows updates improving performance has been debunked. certainly not the 40%+ that it's trailing behind in titles like fallout 4 etc
Dude if the Ryzen CPU's are largely on par with Intels in the majority of games at which point do you determine that it's not the CPU but the game.
All of which is irrelevant when you game over 1080p anyway and I imagine all those spending big bucks on 7700k's and 1080ti's, are almost certainly looking to game nearer 4k.
Another article from 3rd of April -_-
Have a look here last week "news" not from 3 months ago, why is irrelevant to post anything older than June.....
Here is a good example how unrealistic all benchmarks are from previous months today.
Here is one using the 1700X with GTX1080 same game and scene from March 3rd to run a comparison.
Check the perf difference between the "before the game update" 1600 (but with all windows, BIOS etc) and the 1700X perf from March......
Yes the 1700X runs at 1920x1080 and the 1600 at 2560x1080, but the latter is faster because of those updates. (on the before the game update benchmark).
On the post game update benchmark, as you see the performance of the $200 cheaper 1600 is in par with the 7700K @ 4.8Ghz+
And that money difference makes the argument 7700K + GTX1080 +Z270 or 1600 and GTX1080Ti +B350? Since they cost the same more or less.
Many here had the question in this very forum "what to buy as future proof system".
The answer isn't Intel 4 core CPU today.
And something newer comparing actually against intel CPUs albeit with a GTX970OC.
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What about Cyrix's CPUs (586 etc....)
133/166 please
build countless Linux kernels on it, while developing part of some patches to the kernel.Or running a sniffer app over the internet, to create a greek spellchecker database for all the text editors back in the day since there wasn't any.
Hell the ISDN 64kbs line was downloading faster the data, than the Cyrix 133/166 could process :/
AM4 has been confirmed for 3 generation of Zen CPU. Threadripper may potentially be the same, nothing has been confirmed. People are expecting to last till DDR5 comes out which i think is 2020, but that is just speculation.
Based on the blender benchmark, threadripper 16 core is potentially clocked at 3.3-3.6 Ghz.
did you skimp over what I wrote? the Windows updates and bios updates have not magically made ryzen faster, I provided a link that tested all the updates, the very most was a 2% gain in a couple titles.
why even list that last video? it's entirely gpubound using a 970...youre just making yourself look stupid there, even a g4560 Pentium would produce the same fps with a GTX 970.
finally, I said ryzen was improved in 3 games, one of them being tomb raider, but that doesn't change the other thousands of titles out there that havnt and probably won't be patched does it?
so, even with the 'ryzen patch' tomb raider and ashes run better on the 7700k, and as for the thousands upon thousands of other games? well you get differences of up to 50%+ in some games , hell in titles like fallout 4, arma, dayz, ESP you get nearly 100% more performance from the 7700k
here's a question, if am4 isn't being changed/updated till what's 3 gens? 2020/21? does that mean you won't get pcie 4.0 till then?
curious as newer cards like the titan Xp and 1080ti are close to the limits of pcie x16, sli shows us they've already exceed pcie x8 by a bit, so surely by 2019/2020 (before am5 or whatever it's called) the 2280ti or whatever will be exceeding pcie 3.0 bandwidth?
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Did you post the wrong link?
The one you liked to is over two months old?
Did you mean something more recent?
Doesn't this apply to the intel lineup also? Because X299 is for 3y socket, like the X79 and the X99.
Z270 I guess is dead, however the upcoming Z370 is still PCI-e 3 which is expected to last to 2019!
Hah, it would be fun next year having Intel replacing the X299....... So much heat that will befall on their heads.....
And an FYI. Ryzen CPUs are SOC. Aka the northbridge is in the CPU. Which is responsible with the peripheral connections..... We do not know how AMD will handle the PCI-e in this instance. But 2019 is 2y away....
So brush under the carpet the video with the GTX970, but if it is GPU bound, why the Ryzen CPUs beat the 7700K by a big margin on CPU intensive games like Civ 6 and Cities Skylines?
Games that actually scale nicely on multiple core CPUs.
Same they do not have some benchmarks with Grey Goo. Which is another strategy that scales very well in multi thread CPUs.
it was more of a question than anything else, I would assume it will be ice lake next year bringing us pcie 4.0 on consumer lines, I wonder if a refresh would come out for x299 a while after with ice lake x bringing pcie 4.0 with a board refresh in late 2018/early 2019?
so what exactly has changed in 2 months to offer a 50% performance increase in ryzen?
it's barely 2 months old that article, it tested all the bios updates and Windows updates and nothing changed, there have been no further Windows updates, and the new bios' are betas purely for increase ram speed, they don't magically make the same cpu perform better in games.
**** my head it's like all the people at release claiming ryzen was gimped because Windows scheduler had an issue, which even amd themselves said was ********, but people still try to make up imaginary reasons their ryzen cpus are slower.
Those games are newer releases are they not? Games that will use more cores more effectively. Fallout 4, arma, dayz are poorly optimized biased for single thread as pointed out before on multiple occasions.
Those games that run better largely run better because of the clock advantage that Intel has over ryzen but like I said, ryzen is a few months old on it's first iteration, Intel have been refining theirs for many years. Clock for clock ryzen holds it's own and is cheaper than intel equivalents.
In your opinion will games going forward continue to utilize fewer cores or or more cores? Are intel moving towards more cores or stopping at 4 cores?
Then possible that would happen to the AMD lineup. But lets cross that bridge. PCI-E 4.0 is going on since 2015!!!!!
However that would require new hardware also. PCI-e M2 drivers, PCI-e graphic cards, motherboards, the lot.
Doubt we going to see anything until 2020, because current products take 2y to be on the market from design phase, and the PCI-E 4.0 just completed it's spec!
My personal comp is indeed 980 however only a single now. And the systems on the Ryzen and 7700k are for machines I have built for friends. Some are 1080 and others 1080Ti.
There are a few videos on YouTube showing the same performance as I've stated and these are on latest agesa updates.
I've tested this on 6 different systems whilst setting up with same windows 10 build as it's an ISO I made to make sure it setup right.
My 4790k I still use is about 5% slower to compare.
Resolution I am getting around 5fps different at 1080 and it reducing to 1-2fps different at 1440p and 4K