Is Roff still trying make issues where none exist?
The IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) is on the CPU, not the Motherboard.
3000Mhz RAM is enough to keep up with Intel, so its not a problem, You're inventing problems to fix that don't exist in the first place, Next to Ryzen Intel have far far greater challenges to overcome, why don't you talk about some of them? like with AMD's ingenious way of dealing with the cost and yields of large CPU's, the very thing you are trying hard to be critical of, Infinity Fabric, How are Intel going to deal with it? Because if they don't AMD are going be a very serious and very constant problem to them, for as long as Intel cannot do their own Infinity Fabric AMD are going to have a huge advantage over them.
I'm aware the imc isn't on the morherboard, the whole quote was if you're on a good motherboard with a good imc (as in you're lucky your cpu has a good imc) you may be able to get 3200mhz, it's basically you need a silicone lottery type win on the imc on the cpu itself (as it seems to wildly vary) and you need one of the higher end motherboards that seem to be more stable with these ram speeds
I was merely saying that would be a nice thing for amd to focus on with zen+, alongside if they can somehow improve how infinity fabric is dependant on ram speed so much.
amd needed infinity fabric because they don't have the resources to use multiple dies, Intel does have these resources and thus it isn't an issue as such, Intel can and will charge higher prices, but as they are seen as (and are) the more *premium product*
although it remains to be see how long x86 has left, hell even cpus in general, at the moment Intel can just keep with what they've been doing, there's 10nm and 7nm to go, which gives them enough cpus till 2023 at least (that's with a 7nm+ and ++ design) who knows by then? maybe quantum computing will start taking off, maybe Intel will just use their own kind of infinity fabric (iirc they tested something similar a few years back but decided not to follow through with it)
maybe we'll see a new instruction set and it'll be replaced? it stands to reason that could happen, I know Intel said that I think it was tiger lake in 2019 they're changing up the core architecture, and stripping away mist of the (old) instruction sets they have on the chip as many of them are unused and waste efficiency/performance, apparently tiger lake is going to be heavily reduced on that side of things as well as moving away from the core architecture?
who knows tbh.
I'm curious how optane/3d xpoint is going to turn out, if it does what micron/Intel have said it will do (in coming years) it could be replacing ram entirely, which would be a fairly cool concept, not sure how that might effect future performance?
there's so many things that are always "coming soon" like new types of storage, or types of cpus, architectures, quantum computing (ok ok not soon but still coming) it's so hard to see what the future will bring.
hell, back in the 90s, with 16mb? ram, a 500mb hdd, a cpu that iirc was a p5? 50mhz iirc , I think I would have called you a crack addict if you told me a pc would have specs like today, and I wouldn't have to tell my parents not to use the phone was I was using the dial up 28k (ahhh **** that noise)
anyway, my point was who knows where we'll be in 10 years. (hopefully by then we're all living on the moon trump will have finally been removed from the white house, with may in chains lol)