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AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X

8 Pack said:
Hey guys hows your Thread Ripper vs Skylake X testing going??

You all got chips and boards I take it???
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Got the time to post in here but not to reply to customers of your ryzen bundle asking if you have been able to get faster memory working.......
 
so points to summarise

AMD
LOWER TAP
16 CORES POTENTIALLY RISING TO 32
-7% LOWER FPS
MORE PCI E LANES ( TRI SLI AND NVME NO ISSUES)

HALF THE PRICE OF INTEL
SLOT SUPPORT TILL ATLEAST 2020

INTEL
$$$$$$ ALL ABOUT THOSE DOLLARS
DLC $$$ FOR YA DOLLAS
LESS PCI LANES
GET READY FOR MORE QUADS ON X299
FASTER MEMORY SUPPORT
MORE FPS +7%
HIGHER TDP
 
faceman123 said:
so points to summarise

AMD
LOWER TAP
16 CORES POTENTIALLY RISING TO 32
-7% LOWER FPS
MORE PCI E LANES ( TRI SLI AND NVME NO ISSUES)

HALF THE PRICE OF INTEL
SLOT SUPPORT TILL ATLEAST 2020

INTEL
$$$$$$ ALL ABOUT THOSE DOLLARS
DLC $$$ FOR YA DOLLAS
LESS PCI LANES
GET READY FOR MORE QUADS ON X299
FASTER MEMORY SUPPORT
MORE FPS +7%
HIGHER TDP
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Intel love dem quads man, cost nothing to make and a lot of Intel fanboys still think they are better than CPU's with more cores. :D
 
faceman123 said:
so points to summarise

AMD
LOWER TAP
16 CORES POTENTIALLY RISING TO 32
-7% LOWER FPS
MORE PCI E LANES ( TRI SLI AND NVME NO ISSUES)

HALF THE PRICE OF INTEL
SLOT SUPPORT TILL ATLEAST 2020

INTEL
$$$$$$ ALL ABOUT THOSE DOLLARS
DLC $$$ FOR YA DOLLAS
LESS PCI LANES
GET READY FOR MORE QUADS ON X299
FASTER MEMORY SUPPORT
MORE FPS +7%
HIGHER TDP
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lol the fanboy is strong with this one

but realistically

Intel 30% odd faster core for core
32 core is epyc, and won't be coming to hedt platform

tri sli isn't supported anymore you know that right?

how do you know the prices of threadripper? you got an insider source on the upcoming msrp?


you ignore that
amd slower clock for clock than Intel
amd much slower in games
amd clocks much lower
amd platform is buggy as hell, and immature

man I'm gonna laugh like hell when these threadrippers are pulling 280w and people cant cool them without 480mm loops...
 
Doobedoo said:
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because I'm a tech enthusiast, I try all the products so I can make up my own mind about them, and make informed decisions about what to recommend to my friends/customers.

I'm also someone that upgrades and enjoys new components, I change my case every month-two months (currently on phanteks evolv which is epic) and I like to try new/different tech.

like when the 980ti and fury launched, I had a 390, which I swapped to a 970, then I bought a fury x and was disappointed so got a 980ti, and from there I went 1070/80/ti to my current titan Xp.

so yes, I bought a 1800x, and was genuinely disappointed with the products performance, compared to my old 5960x and 6900k in productivity, and my 7700k in gaming.

now productivity, it was 'ok' for the price it was good, but it performed worse than my 5960x (it overclocked to 4.7ghz)

gaming was definitely a worse experience in general, which was also shown by my 3d firestrike scores being higher with all of the Intel cpus.
 
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zornyan said:
so yes, I bought a 1800x, and was genuinely disappointed with the products performance, compared to my old 5960x and 6900k in productivity, and my 7700k in gaming.

now productivity, it was 'ok' for the price it was good, but it performed worse than my 5960x (it overclocked to 4.7ghz)

gaming was definitely a worse experience in general, which was also shown by my 3d firestrike scores being higher with all of the Intel cpus.
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I'm interested if you have kept it as a running project as I am sure that you are aware it is still evolving with Bios becoming more mature.

I think that it is your assertions that Intel cores are 30% stronger than AMD which attracts some derision. This is not borne out in fact anywhere that I would claim to be fully authorative.

Software and driver change is also important and will be driven by cheaper hardware. Lower power, less heat (and noise), are all things that should be taken into consideration when comparing processors.
 
nkata said:
I'm interested if you have kept it as a running project as I am sure that you are aware it is still evolving with Bios becoming more mature.

I think that it is your assertions that Intel cores are 30% stronger than AMD which attracts some derision. This is not borne out in fact anywhere that I would claim to be fully authorative.

Software and driver change is also important and will be driven by cheaper hardware. Lower power, less heat (and noise), are all things that should be taken into consideration when comparing processors.
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I did mention price in that above comment, the 30% quote is pretty much a given, out of the box the skylake x cpus have a near 1ghz speed advantage, and (roughly) 10% better ipc. this isn't including overclocking, as naturally most hedt platforms will remain at stock speeds with stock ram etc in workstations.

I have said naturally benchmarks will show us more, but it makes common sense a cpu with 1ghz higher clocks and higher ipc is naturally going to be fairly faster right?

the 1800x got returned, as I was unhappy with its performance, I also had a r7 1700 to test, part of the issue with the 1800x was the 20c offset applied, since I couldn't find a way to override it in bios.

basically, the manual fan curve in the ch6 forces 100% fan speed at 75c, it doesn't take into account the 20c offset, meaning during any medium workloads fans would ramp up to up 100% regularly, the only workaround I have seen is to use speedfan.

the 1700 naturally didn't have the issue as amd don't force a 20c offset on the cpu, and it overclocked just as well (so I wouldn't recommend a 1700x or 1800x to anyone) but the system overall was a headache, cold boot loops were common, ram speeds could never reach their advertised speeds even with aegsa 1.0.0.6 bios and I just didn't like the game performance.

now, Will future bio' s make the platform more stable? absolutely, but at this point in time I can't recommend it to anyone of my customers as currently it isn't stable.

my crosshair actually committed suicide when trying to run some new gskill 3600mhz ram, I made sure to get samsung B die just to see if I could hit higher than 2933mhz, but alas it failed to post and all ram slots appear dead, no bios flashback or cmos clearing worked, all the other components worked fine in my Intel rig.
 
Again I think that that is overly simplistic. The AMD SMT system appears to be better than Intels currently and therefore threading should be better. I do not have an Intel system myself currently at home to make comparisons with. However using productivity software (engineering design and analysis) the Ryzen flies though the work far quicker than four core systems that we have at the office. Mostly this is software parked on a remote server and work computers are wired whereas home is VPN and wireless. Programs stored on my SSD really do fly. I do not game heavily so cannot comment too much on that aspect. My conclusion would be to buy Ryzen for its productivity as the processor, mobo and ram below came to the princely budget of £700 and I am very impressed so far.

EDIT; Note comparisons mentioned with work productivity are quite reasonably taken at stock. Work computers are not overclocked. Ryzen ram speeds are currently 2933MHz.

EDIT2; This post does not discuss Threadripper or Skylake X, my apologies for crashing the thread.;)
 
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