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AMD to unveil Zen 4 CPUs at CES 2022

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uscool said:
single at 15% is enough to match/beat Alder maybe that was the aim ? but it blitz it in multi core
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Grim5 said:
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* PCIE 5.0 Nvme storage drives coming, has 60% increase in sequential read speeds, launching with Zen4 and AM5





New boards













16 core Ryzen 7950x hits 5.53ghz while playing Ghostwire Tokyo game











* AMD says 7950x is 31% faster than 12900k in multicore workloads.
* 7950x appears to have 170w TDP, AMD says the higher TDP of the AM5 socket allows higher all core clockspeeds for Ryzen than ever before.













How AMD calculated the 15% performance improvement in single core













And finally, Zen 4 is launching this Autumn.



* Zen 4 does not use 3D cache at this stage, but L2 cache has been doubled. Outside of what AMD has said today, rumours are that 3D cache is being saved to fight against Intel's Meteor Lake in 2023
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5.53Ghz, those are impressive clocks and they are talking about overclocking, makes me wonder if these are the first CPU's to hit 6Ghz on 24/7 overclocks.

15% ST R23 is a little disappointing, i would like to have seen 25% just because that would match RTL but unless there is a huge difference i don't think it actually matters.

31% on the MT is pretty good in its own right but more impressive considering they haven't changed the core count.

I think they will do quite well in games, its about 10-15% higher clocks, the larger L2 will add to that and DDR5 should see another significant bump, IMO they will beat the 5800X3D and 12900K with it.
 
humbug said:
5.53Ghz, those are impressive clocks and they are talking about overclocking, makes me wonder if these are the first CPU's to hit 6Ghz on 24/7 overclocks.

15% ST R23 is a little disappointing, i would like to have seen 25% just because that would match RTL but unless there is a huge difference i don't think it actually matters.

31% on the MT is pretty good in its own right but more impressive considering they haven't changed the core count.

I think they will do quite well in games, its about 10-15% higher clocks, the larger L2 will add to that and DDR5 should see another significant bump, IMO they will beat the 5800X3D and 12900K with it.
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dont feel to confident and when they didnt show anything in gamiing benchmarks
 
Seems to be much more of a game of cat and mouse these days. I noticed they referred to "our competition" a number of times instead of naming them. AMD are definitely playing Intel and Nvidia at their own game now. Fun times ahead ;)
 
So where does this 16 core sit in the product stack? If this is to be the 7950x then CPU's lower in the stack may only get single digit % increases vs a 5950x in single thread.
 
uscool said:
dont feel to confident and when they didnt show anything in gamiing benchmarks
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They never do, not even when Zen 3 had Intel around the scuff of the neck kicking them around the room for fun. Depending on the game the 5800X was anything up to 30% faster in games than the 10900K and you didn't know that until independent reviews tested it.

In terms of what we know this is not a worse improvement than what we saw Zen 2 vs Zen 3.

3950X: 1,371 ST
5950X: 1,644 ST (+20%)

3950X: 24,050
5950X: 28,577 (+19%)

In games it was as much as 46%, AMD said absolutely nothing about that.

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Not impressed with the leaks/info of Zen4 so far.

15% ST performance - not enough to beat Alder Lake. Alder Lake's been out since November - we could be looking at a year later for Zen4 for mass availability, for the same or less performance?

It's also probable that Raptor Lake will be out at the same time, or possibly before Zen4. Raptor Lake will offer 24 cores and likely increase ST performance another 10%+ over Alder Lake.

Two chipsets on the boards sounds messy, power hungry and overly complex.
 
Dave2150 said:
Not impressed with the leaks/info of Zen4 so far.

15% ST performance - not enough to beat Alder Lake. Alder Lake's been out since November - we could be looking at a year later for Zen4 for mass availability, for the same or less performance?

It's also probable that Raptor Lake will be out at the same time, or possibly before Zen4. Raptor Lake will offer 24 cores and likely increase ST performance another 10%+ over Alder Lake.

Two chipsets on the boards sounds messy, power hungry and overly complex.
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but it blitz it in multi core Also Raptor Lake will be the last on that platform, while it will be the first one for AM5 so almost can be sure it will get another 2-3 min the platform does seem to be built for long term support so might go for an high end AM5 board

I probably skip the first and wait see whats offered next in line CPU on AM5 and compare what Intel has also DDR5 options should be much better
 
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humbug said:
They never do, not even when Zen 3 had Intel around the scuff of the neck kicking them around the room for fun. Depending on the game the 5800X was anything up to 30% faster in games than the 10900K and you didn't know that until independent reviews tested it.

In terms of what we know this is not a worse improvement than what we saw Zen 2 vs Zen 3.

3950X: 1,371 ST
5950X: 1,644 ST (+20%)

3950X: 24,050
5950X: 28,577 (+19%)

In games it was as much as 46%, AMD said absolutely nothing about that.

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not sure against 5800X3D
 
Dave2150 said:
Not impressed with the leaks/info of Zen4 so far.

15% ST performance - not enough to beat Alder Lake. Alder Lake's been out since November - we could be looking at a year later for Zen4 for mass availability, for the same or less performance?

It's also probable that Raptor Lake will be out at the same time, or possibly before Zen4. Raptor Lake will offer 24 cores and likely increase ST performance another 10%+ over Alder Lake.

Two chipsets on the boards sounds messy, power hungry and overly complex.
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The chipset is irrelevant to a consumer. Do you mean mass availability from release? If so there is literally no info on that and you've just picked random speculation.

In terms of single core performance. Indeed it seems lower than expected but the multicore is solid improvement still. Was expecting more but as a total platform it seems reasonably solid if you upgrading from a system 3yr + old.
 
Dave2150 said:
Not impressed with the leaks/info of Zen4 so far.

15% ST performance - not enough to beat Alder Lake. Alder Lake's been out since November - we could be looking at a year later for Zen4 for mass availability, for the same or less performance?

It's also probable that Raptor Lake will be out at the same time, or possibly before Zen4. Raptor Lake will offer 24 cores and likely increase ST performance another 10%+ over Alder Lake.

Two chipsets on the boards sounds messy, power hungry and overly complex.
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Your opinion matters less and less with every post you make
 
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