AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

JediFragger · 30 Aug 2016 at 19:54

r22snapper said:
Not quite the same but I would have gone for a 1080 if they were £100 less or so. Due to missing that I have bought a 21:9 freesync monitor and can't quite believe I waited so long to make use of variable refresh rate tech. Vega will be my next upgrade but I may not buy on launch. I'm happy enough with performance at the moment and think I'll get better life out of the Fury than I would from a 980 which was my other option.

It does help a great deal imo, and certainly helps to extend the life of a card

I can easily imagine a single 1080 paired with an UW Gsync monitor lasting 2 years+ at V High/Ultra :cool:

(same with Vega and an UW Freesync)

Final8y · 30 Aug 2016 at 20:11

SiDeards73 said:
I wonder if i am the only person on the planet holding onto a 290 waiting for Vega and ignoring the Polaris and Pascal cards? and even the Maxwell cards? If i am not and there are others like me, i wonder how many people are actually brand loyal or price / performance conscious and have 3yr or so upgrade cycles?

Basically i wonder if there are many 290 owners who are waiting for the next equivalent AMD card? ie an AMD high end card they can buy and use for a good 3 or so years?

No your not.

Baboonanza · 30 Aug 2016 at 20:15

Final8y said:
No your not.

I'm in that queue too. I think the next architectures by both sides will be more interesting than Pascal/Polaris.

JediFragger · 30 Aug 2016 at 20:46

Baboonanza said:
I'm in that queue too. I think the next architectures by both sides will be more interesting than Pascal/Polaris.

Yup, I'm expecting true DX12 chips next time

Kaapstad · 30 Aug 2016 at 20:51

Sadly this machine was powered by Maxwell chips

Should have gone to AMD.

old gamer · 30 Aug 2016 at 21:05

Showing your age there kaap with the lost in space vid

hardkore · 30 Aug 2016 at 21:13

Still rocking my 290. However Vega will have to be something special after the amount of aggro my 290 has been.

I'm not a fan of either AMD or nvidia, just whatever gives me medium-high end bang for buck. The way prices have been if I can't get near 1080 performance for less than £400 both companies can GTFO.

Thinking about it, my Sig is a testament to how little value upgrades are nowadays for the average guy. The golden age of hardware!!

Kaapstad · 30 Aug 2016 at 21:17

old gamer said:
Showing your age there kaap with the lost in space vid

LoadsaMoney · 30 Aug 2016 at 21:22

The daughter was hot as **** in that.

Blackjack Davy · 31 Aug 2016 at 00:00

humbug said:
Thats a ##### huge uplift from last quarter, what happened to all these apparent massive GTX 1070/80 sales?

I always found those claims of massive sales of 1080's dubious honestly especially as some people have been waiting months for theirs. And they never mentioned the timescale during which these cards were supposed to be outselling everything. Best selling card between... 4 and 5pm on a certain day of the year?!

Sounded awfully like marketing hype at its finest.

TheMorningStar · 31 Aug 2016 at 01:29

Kaapstad said:
Waiting for Vega but still have Hawaii

I really liked Hawaii, very solid and reliable on water.

Fiji is ok if you use one or two.

RX480 I really like but are only good for 3 way until AMD sort the drivers. I really like the cards though but I am not sure why myself. They just seem to look feel and run ok.

Have you seen any RX480 Trifire numbers yet? I'm wondering what scaling is like.

SiDeards73 said:
I had £2k set aside to upgrade my PC, all the delay is doing is increasing what I can spend, I might end up with an 8/16 Zen, new Ram and Mobo and a pair of big Vega at this rate.

I don't mind waiting, im playing wow for the next 6 months I guess so that will take me into next year anyhow on my 290.

Haha! Same, I spent around 2k on my 1440p Eyefinity setup, storage drives and a peripheral or two. I'm just sitting on growing savings for Vega and Zen but only if they come through on price/performance/efficiency. It is, however, annoying having half an upgrade with all of the visuals and none of the performance. I'll be gutted if it turns out I end up getting a Skylake or x99 system

Kaapstad · 31 Aug 2016 at 06:01

TheMorningStar said:
Have you seen any RX480 Trifire numbers yet? I'm wondering what scaling is like.

Last time I tried 3 way scaling in synthetic benches was very good but overclocking via wattman was a real pain with 3 cards due to the drivers.

4 way won't work at all but AMD are working on it.

Old score

3 x RX480 @1266/2000 @stock, a bit faster than an overclocked Pascal Titan for half the price.

Score 11375

RX 480(3x) @1266/2000

i7-6950X @4.0

Graphics Score 11372

CPU Score 11397

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/116166

16.7.2 drivers

raval91 · 31 Aug 2016 at 10:29

Kaapstad said:
Last time I tried 3 way scaling in synthetic benches was very good but overclocking via wattman was a real pain with 3 cards due to the drivers.

4 way won't work at all but AMD are working on it.

Old score

3 x RX480 @1266/2000 @stock, a bit faster than an overclocked Pascal Titan for half the price.

Score 11375

RX 480(3x) @1266/2000

i7-6950X @4.0

Graphics Score 11372

CPU Score 11397

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/116166

16.7.2 drivers

Thats impressive, will it also take advantage of x3 8GB of vram?

Kaapstad · 31 Aug 2016 at 12:15

raval91 said:
Thats impressive, will it also take advantage of x3 8GB of vram?

VRAM does not stack so even with 3 or 4 cards there will be 8gb of memory available.

With SLI or CF the memory on each card is mirrored so they all know what is going on.

N19h7m4r3 · 31 Aug 2016 at 14:15

The wait for Vega is getting so hard. I was hoping those rumors of October had some truth to it.

As great as the Fury X and 980Tis are I already want an upgrade again.

I want it for World of Warcraft of all things, the new graphical updates, and new zones are really demanding. One place in particular has me in the low 30's at times when there's a lot going on. My Fury X is actually pegged at 99-100% load more than ever before now.

The only thing that'll remedy that is an aftermarket 1080, or even better the TitanX. Especially for other games as well.

I'm so tempted to just get a TX now, but the value of those, after a year is terrible; but I still want it.

I guess one thing that's keeping my wallet from crying itself to sleep is the NVIDIA store doesn't want to sell to Ireland.

So come on AMD, get Vega out and make it a doozy!

SiDeards73 · 31 Aug 2016 at 14:22

N19h7m4r3 said:
The wait for Vega is getting so hard. I was hoping those rumors of October had some truth to it.

As great as the Fury X and 980Tis are I already want an upgrade again.

I want it for World of Warcraft of all things, the new graphical updates, and new zones are really demanding. One place in particular has me in the low 30's at times when there's a lot going on. My Fury X is actually pegged at 99-100% load more than ever before now.

The only thing that'll remedy that is an aftermarket 1080, or even better the TitanX. Especially for other games as well.

I'm so tempted to just get a TX now, but the value of those, after a year is terrible; but I still want it.

I guess one thing that's keeping my wallet from crying itself to sleep is the NVIDIA store doesn't want to sell to Ireland.

So come on AMD, get Vega out and make it a doozy!

Yeah? well im playing it at 1440p on a 144hz screen on a 290, basically i just turn everything down, my card doesnt even spin up now, i lowered the view distance as tbh its rubbish having it up high as it breaks the feel of the game having been used to the original view distance for so long.

I also turned down lots of stuff like shadows etc which are impractical and you dont even notice during normal game play.

If i want to take screenshots (why would i? this is Wow?) then i just slap everything on max and do it.

Im happy with the current performance and graphical quality of the game, and when new Vega comes i'll crank it up then!

maonayze · 31 Aug 2016 at 14:56

@subbytna

I cannot agree that AMD releases have been so bad over the last 4 years....

Firstly, Fiji based cards weren't that far off the 980Ti (don't forget that the 980 was the target for Fury/FuryX - The 980Ti was what Nvidia pushed out to combat the Fiji cards just before their release and to do that they had to give you a Titan X with a bit of a limp in one leg on a Wednesday afternoon i.e. Almost a full Titan X at half the price).

Secondly those 290/390 and their X variants are still giving people some great FPS numbers on todays games and have beaten everything they were put up against and then some. And they are still going fairly strong.

As for AMD have nothing in the pipeline to combat the 1070 and 1080.....well we are all fully aware of Vega and have been for quite some time...so not sure what you are getting at here.

Nvidia card technology seems to favour higher clock speeds whereas AMDs does not....but the RX480 v 1060 is probably the closest competition that both companies have ever had and look at the clock speed differences between those cards...IMHO it just means that the engineering in the AMD cards is competing without the higher clock speeds. Nvidia users seem to be totally fixated with higher clock speeds and brute force and boy do Nvidia love to feed the beast. The problem here is how far can this tech still be pushed? I actually think that it is very close to its limit as those 1080s are struggling to pull beyond 2.1Ghz no matter what is done to them.

I don't actually think that we will see AMD pull a fast left hook and totally knock Nvidia for six with Vega (Would be a nice surprise though, admittedly) but they will continue to gain marketshare as they have done....slowly slowly catchee monkey is AMDs name of the game.

LoadsaMoney said:
No they dont, a single 1070 smashes them, i'll take a one all day long over a pair of 480s, plus theres the sheer power 2x of them will need over what a 1070 does as well, as 1x on its own needs more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMHJhP7Y7oM

Not here it doesnt, and power consumption is the Nvidia users last straw they clutch at when being beat on performance.

Kaapstad · 31 Aug 2016 at 15:23

N19h7m4r3 said:
The wait for Vega is getting so hard. I was hoping those rumors of October had some truth to it.

As great as the Fury X and 980Tis are I already want an upgrade again.

I want it for World of Warcraft of all things, the new graphical updates, and new zones are really demanding. One place in particular has me in the low 30's at times when there's a lot going on. My Fury X is actually pegged at 99-100% load more than ever before now.

The only thing that'll remedy that is an aftermarket 1080, or even better the TitanX. Especially for other games as well.

I'm so tempted to just get a TX now, but the value of those, after a year is terrible; but I still want it.

I guess one thing that's keeping my wallet from crying itself to sleep is the NVIDIA store doesn't want to sell to Ireland.

So come on AMD, get Vega out and make it a doozy!

With the Pascal Titan it is not about the value in a years time, it is all about how good it is now.

It is a brutally fast card if you want it now.

It will still be a viable card in a couple of years too which most other cards can not claim.

N19h7m4r3 · 31 Aug 2016 at 16:00

SiDeards73 said:
Yeah? well im playing it at 1440p on a 144hz screen on a 290, basically i just turn everything down, my card doesnt even spin up now, i lowered the view distance as tbh its rubbish having it up high as it breaks the feel of the game having been used to the original view distance for so long.

I also turned down lots of stuff like shadows etc which are impractical and you dont even notice during normal game play.

If i want to take screenshots (why would i? this is Wow?) then i just slap everything on max and do it.

Im happy with the current performance and graphical quality of the game, and when new Vega comes i'll crank it up then!

I can't deal with that, the new graphics improvements are so good, and the areas so beautiful I feel it's a shame to knock everything down so much.

Inside dungeons, Highmountain, and Stormheim performance is stellar, it's the other areas with so much foliage and shadows that does it in.

I do hope Blizz move to DX12 and alleviate some of the CPU overhead, it'll help everyone.

TheMorningStar · 31 Aug 2016 at 16:31

Kaapstad said:
Last time I tried 3 way scaling in synthetic benches was very good but overclocking via wattman was a real pain with 3 cards due to the drivers.

4 way won't work at all but AMD are working on it.

Old score

3 x RX480 @1266/2000 @stock, a bit faster than an overclocked Pascal Titan for half the price.

Score 11375

RX 480(3x) @1266/2000

i7-6950X @4.0

Graphics Score 11372

CPU Score 11397

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/116166

16.7.2 drivers

Nice, I was wondering what scaling would be like. I can't really get the performance I want from 2 RX480s, 3 may do it but I'm holding out for probably 2 Vega cards. Also holding out for Zen so no rush for graphics that I can't power on this system. It's a painfully long upgrade path.