AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

[TheRealDeal]

Sadly I have been down this road with AMD many, many times. Every time they promise the world, everyone gets all excited at the possibility, and they launch something which disappoints everyone who had such high expectations. They then rely on pricing to shift units rather than performance which although good for the bank, has let both Nvidia and Intel get lazy. From Bulldozer to Hawaii to Fury, none of it has really made the competition standto attention.

Don't get me wrong, despite my cynicism I am still an AMD fanboy at heart and there is nothing I'd like to see more than AMD putting the fear of god into Nvidia but sadly generation after generation of disappointment has taught me to be very wary of their marketing speak.

Of course if this does happen I'll be the first to hand over the wedge.

Lets not involve Hawaii in this as it's one of the best architectures to come out of from both Company's. It's still a great gaming card right now unlike the gtx780/ti which are falling back with every new game release. Ryzen is pushing all the correct buttons so far so lets hope Vega can do the same. I see your point though especially with Fury and Bulldozer but hawaii no chance.

 

[Rroff]

what options do nvidia have if as quoted happens"Hopefully AMD Sandbags Vega like they have apparently done with Ryzen, would be hilarious if they caught Nvidia out, with more performance at cheaper, can you imagine AMD launching a TitanXP beating Card at £500.."
(not saying this will happen) but if it did ,i would be interested to know what options are open to nvidia.(price war is all i can think of )

Price war would certainly be on the cards with the time advantage nVidia have - they also have trickled out Pascal compared to the potential capabilities - compared to what is capable on the process even the Pascal Titan is only like a GTX780, GTX470, GTX260, etc. etc. and nVidia are a few steps on from Pascal now development wise.

 

[Diddums]

Lets not involve Hawaii in this as it's one of the best architectures to come out of both Company's. Ryzen is pushing all the correct buttons so far so lets hope Vega can do the same. I see your point though especially with Fury and Bulldozer but hawaii no chance.

Hawaii was more of a heat / energy consumption problem. Granted it was quick but holy hell was it hungry.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Hawaii was more of a heat / energy consumption problem. Granted it was quick but holy hell was it hungry.

The stock cooler was utter gash and that's where the heat problem comes from. Give it a decent cooler and heat's no longer an issue. Power consumption was high but the gtx780ti was not sipping power like some posh wine drinker either. If Nvidia/AMD come out with another card which promises to be relevant for this many years but it's only drawback is power consumption i will buy it every day of the week.

 

[TNA]

Hehehehe

Yea, saw that in the Zen thread, made me chuckle

 

[Spyhop]

Bought a Hawaii XT for my Zen build

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I was very pleased with my Hawaii 290x up until it failed last week lol, it was never designed to run Elite Dangerous or DayZ at 4K but it could on medium settings yes it genuinely could. My issue with Vega is I'm not sure I can wait no matter how it turns out I fear I'm going to have to buy my way out of a problem with the Nvidia option.

 

[mahius]

Raja meant the whole pc for $1000,not just cpu and gpu.

$1000? What has he been smoking? The days of getting a decent PC for £1000 are history. Not with the prices that these parts now have, only in people's dreams will such money build a PC. I built my PC for £1.3k a few years back. The same tier of PCs nowadays would cost £1700+ if not over £2000

So, performance and price expectations for the top Vega card?

1080 like performance for less-than-current 1080 prices. And Nvidia will counter with a price drop/1080ti probably.

I would love to see TXP performance for £500 or lower!

Don't we all Greg? Don't we all... (when Nvidia starts charging fair prices AKA when hell freezes over lol)

 

[JediFragger]

I was very pleased with my Hawaii 290x up until it failed last week lol, it was never designed to run Elite Dangerous or DayZ at 4K but it could on medium settings yes it genuinely could. My issue with Vega is I'm not sure I can wait no matter how it turns out I fear I'm going to have to buy my way out of a problem with the Nvidia option.

Second-hand Fury will serve you well, mine is great at 3840x1600 res with a mix of Medium/High settings

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Second-hand Fury will serve you well, mine is great at 3840x1600 res with a mix of Medium/High settings

I'm not a big fan of the 2nd hand market for GPUs, because people tend to over value them you might as well buy a 480x IF you are prepared to compromise on performance. Vega 10 is a more logical upgrade for 290x owners imho we'll see in a few hours hopefully.

 

[JediFragger]

I'm not a big fan of the 2nd hand market for GPUs, because people tend to over value them you might as well buy a 480x IF you are prepared to compromise on performance. Vega 10 is a more logical upgrade for 290x owners imho we'll see in a few hours hopefully.

Fury was £170 and is sometimes as much as 40%+ faster than a 480 (at my res), but whatever floats your boat

 

[Ayahuasca]

I'm not a big fan of the 2nd hand market for GPUs, because people tend to over value them you might as well buy a 480x IF you are prepared to compromise on performance. Vega 10 is a more logical upgrade for 290x owners imho we'll see in a few hours hopefully.

That makes little sense, if anything a lot of GPU's go for under value on the MM and if you're still getting warranty with it I see little reason to buy new and get less performance than buying used.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Fury was £170 and is sometimes as much as 40%+ faster than a 480 (at my res), but whatever floats your boat

not on fleabay its not more like £300, £170 however is not unreasonable

 

[LoadsaMoney]

What game we going for tonight being shown then, we've had the Vulkan, so be Dx12s turn now, so im going for Sniper Elite 4.

 

[SiDeards73]

What game we going for tonight being shown then, we've had the Vulkan, so be Dx12s turn now, so im going for Sniper Elite 4.

Wish they would just be honest and pick identical rigs apart from GPU and then pick a game with built in benchmarks, like The Division, then show you all the settings and show the cards side by side doing DX11 and DX12, then there can be no real arguement.

 

[AlamoX]

i doubt AMD had enough money to push Vega to high performance ( as high as we think ), most of the R&D $ went to Ryzen probably.
i still think having slightly better than 1080 perf for top vega would be great, but significantly better pricing.

 

[RavenXXX2]

AMD will pull a zen with vega, 1080 + perf for $399.

 

[JediFragger]

AMD will pull a zen with vega, 1080 + perf for $399.

Wishful thinking in my view, but we can hope!!!

 

[Ayahuasca]

Hoping for some more details on that RX580 we saw leaked.

 

[TNA]

AMD will pull a zen with vega, 1080 + perf for $399.

People make it sound like it is not possible. Nvidia could sell their 1080 at that price and still be making a neat profit IMO, but they are milking hard and hence one of the reason why in the last year their shares have sky-rocketed!