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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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AthlonXP1800 said:
First RX Vega OpenCL benchmark leaked!

https://videocardz.com/67242/amd-vega-with-64-compute-units-spotted

GTX 1080 Ti is faster than RX Vega in OpenCL benchmark.

Look like 2015 all over again with Nvidia ship 38 different 1080 Ti cards range compared to about 30 980 Ti mean Nvidia will sell alots of 1080 Ti in coming months and RTG probably will ship 1000 to 2000 RX Vega X cards worldwide in a month.

Poor Vega!
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Already posted and if you read the clocks were 1000mhz to 1200mhz and they even say early drivers. So likely much lower clocks than the release card with early drivers. Plenty of room to improve in both clocks and drivers. My guess is this won't be far off the Ti and could be faster. Either way i think there will be competition.
 
r7slayer said:
Holy crap since when? LOL I remember there been a fuss that the Pro duo only used Fury cores. But assumed it was due to heat etc. Did they do a revision or something and now use full core chips?
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No this has always been the spec. I think the fuss was more about the cost being more than 2 x Fury X. With these coming clocked under the Fury X spec the card performed more like Fury Pro crossfire.
 
TheRealDeal said:
No has always been the case. I think the fuss was more about the cost being more than 2 x Fury X. With these coming clocked under the Fury X spec the card performed more like Fury Pro crossfire.
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Meh i think it's a sign of old age hitting me as my memory is not what it once was lol. I must have dreamt it because in my head i was sure i remember seeing it haha.

Yea it was expensive i remember that! It looked more like it was aimed at smaller builds that only could accommodate one card but meant you still could xfire.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
First RX Vega OpenCL benchmark leaked!

https://videocardz.com/67242/amd-vega-with-64-compute-units-spotted

GTX 1080 Ti is faster than RX Vega in OpenCL benchmark.

1200MHz max boost clock? Thought Vega have up to max boost 1500Mhz? :confused:

Look like 2015 all over again with Nvidia ship 38 different 1080 Ti cards range compared to about 30 980 Ti mean Nvidia will sell alots of 1080 Ti in coming months and RTG probably will ship 1000 to 2000 RX Vega X cards worldwide in a month.

Poor Vega!
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Pretty decent positioning there (if true), I'm sure with increased speeds and updated drivers it'll be close to the 1080 ti's performance.
 
Interesting, Tom Petersen gets asked why the aggressive pricing on the GTX 1080Ti, and he gives a spiel about excitement for gaming but then drops this
but yes, there are things going on in the market as well (laughs) and because of the changes that are happening in the market, we are doing what we have to do to really remain on top.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79-s8byUkxk&feature=youtu.be&t=28m16s

Looks like they think they Had to release the Ti, and lower prices due to "changes in the market", sounds like preemptively trying to gain more market share before Vega drops. Makes me think they believe Vega is more powerful than most suspect.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Interesting, Tom Petersen gets asked why the aggressive pricing on the GTX 1080Ti, and he gives a spiel about excitement for gaming but then drops this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79-s8byUkxk&feature=youtu.be&t=28m16s

Looks like they think they Had to release the Ti, and lower prices due to "changes in the market", sounds like preemptively trying to gain more market share before Vega drops. Makes me think they believe Vega is more powerful than most suspect.
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Given that the 1080Ti is a chopped TXP which is a chopped Quadro, I wouldn't be surprised if NV is trying to pull a fast one here, before Vega launch.
Which if AMD keeps the same aggressive pricing they did with the Ryzen, the 1080Ti will look as bad against Vega, as the 6900K against the R7 1700!

Already on another thread here, there was a discussion about the ridiculous 1080Ti price. And pointed out you can buy for less than £725 an R7 1700, B350 motherboard, 16GB DDR4 3000 CL16, and an RX480 8GB! Just to put it into perspective!
So actually AMD is close to their own target of affordable 4K gaming at $1000, if they sell the Vega at around £500 mark!
(please deduct VAT from the UK pricing).
 
Still a lot of if's and but's, if Vega was comparable to 1080Ti they would have said something, I bet AMD are a tad light on performance compared to where they want to be or they've run into a problem.
 
so going from videocardz leak, Vega should be 80-90% faster than RX480, so definitely between 1080 and the Ti, my guess it would ~5-10% slower than TitanXP, all depands on what the 14nm allows them this time around clock wise.
now if they put it at 499$ that would be a killer card.
 
AlamoX said:
so going from videocardz leak, Vega should be 80-90% faster than RX480, so definitely between 1080 and the Ti, my guess it would ~5-10% slower than TitanXP, all depands on what the 14nm allows them this time around clock wise.
now if they put it at 499$ that would be a killer card.
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I agree. But as the 14nm is maturing is pretty promising also, because if we take Polaris 10 as an example, the new incarnation of it, the Polaris 10 TX2 which powers some of the recent made RX480s (some of the XFX GTR for example), do clock well past 1500 mark hence prompted AMD to refresh the lineup with higher clock speeds and naming them RX 580/570 etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if they could hit 1500 with the Vega chip, if not "stock" but with watercooling overclocking.

Also the process has shown that they do not need to start throttling from the 32C, something that has to be done with the Pascal lineup and manufacturing process.

And in addition they keep true to their target power/performance ratio.
They did it on the Ryzen CPUs, which was more difficult to be honest, bypassing their own targets also.

So we shall see. Interesting times ahead, especially if more companies switch to AMD support like Bethesda, CA and others have done already.
 
I have got to get rid of my upgrade itch till vega launches. Sounds so interesting to see what comes out. At least it will mess with the new and used prices, cant wait!
 
Panos said:
Also the process has shown that they do not need to start throttling from the 32C, something that has to be done with the Pascal lineup and manufacturing process.
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At ~2GHz clocks you'd see throttling behaviour on 14nm LPP as well - you aren't comparing like to like.

I believe for performance parts 14nm LPP is largely inferior to TSMC's 16nm FF+ as they've biased towards being able to sustain relatively high clocks on the lowest possible voltage i.e. useful for mobile stuff while TSMC's FF+ process is a bit more balanced - not quite as good for ultra low power use (hence 16FFC now existing).
 
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