This. Why not take precaution ? Is that hard thing to do for amd i wonder
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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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Looks like we might have a partial picture of one of the RX Vega cards:
https://www.techpowerup.com/233478/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-spotted-in-amds-labs
If you look at the backplate and the position it looks nothing like that of any of the Fury based single or dual GPU cards. The closest is the Fury Nano but that has a different top bit.
Maybe because AMD has diverted most of their R and D in the last two years towards Zen development - AMD needs to make both CPUs and GPUs,so I suspect they decided CPU R and D has taken priority so they could not have a backup plan if HBM2 hit production issues. In the end most of their losses have been down to CPU side of the business,so its not surprising.
https://www.techpowerup.com/233478/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-spotted-in-amds-labs
If you look at the backplate and the position it looks nothing like that of any of the Fury based single or dual GPU cards. The closest is the Fury Nano but that has a different top bit.
Maybe because AMD has diverted most of their R and D in the last two years towards Zen development - AMD needs to make both CPUs and GPUs,so I suspect they decided CPU R and D has taken priority so they could not have a backup plan if HBM2 hit production issues. In the end most of their losses have been down to CPU side of the business,so its not surprising.
I don't see the problem to be honest. It is a joke for god sakes. Bit sad getting upset about such things imo
Regarding HBCC, what I understood is, to get full benefit of it the developer can design the game to make use of it using larger datasets. It would be like an option in game menus that will be greyed out unless you have hbcc for example. Otherwise it still works on some older games anyway. Which is what was expected is it not?
No, he said that to unlock the full potential you need to use bigger datasets. But they saw improvements even for current applications, that don't yet use extra large datasets.
I wonder if the RX Vega line will look different to the FE? Certainly at the very least it will be a different colour. Red instead of blue maybe? 
Yeah, probably this. But I would not be surprised if a developer they partner with would make a game making use of the HBCC feature somehow to it's fullest extent.
Yeah, probably this. But I would not be surprised if a developer they partner with would make a game making use of the HBCC feature somehow to it's fullest extent.
The current HBM2 is not at full speed, full speed would be 512GB/s and that is only for two stacks, if you use 4 stacks then it doubles again.
Pretty sure that was true for the scenario where they used a vram-limited GPU (should help bring the price down if they decide to release a 4Gb Vega which should theoretically perform as good as an 8Gb or 12Gb card).
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Not gonna create a new thread for this but it has implications for Vega and AMD in general.
Vulkan and OpenCL to merge into a single API.
Vulkan and OpenCL to merge into a single API.
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We don't know if he means all, some or even what percentage of older games show an improvements but minimum framerates is something AMD fall behind in.
We often see games tested where minimums are as much as 40% lower than the minimums on Nvidia cards also being tested. So,
If it creates a blanket minimums improvement in the majority of games that's very good news. Good minimums are essential.
Well that's certainly game dependent anyway. Even the GTX 1070 shows nearly a 50% difference between it's own mins and averages in some games which is appalling.
Any improvement in minimums is always welcome to me, as I'd always much rather have 48FPS min and 67avg, than 38mins vs 80avgs
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More grunt? It better not, For me that'll be a deal breaker, I went with the cut-down Fury Pro because after a 6 month wait I was tired of waiting and didn't want to spend the next couple of months waiting for the fixed Fury X's or doing a Loadsa and buying different brands just to send them all back and end up out of pocket and on the Fury Pro anyway.
If AMD don't release the fully unlocked RX Vega first that's gonna be very disappointing too.
I can live with that.
More grunt? It better not, For me that'll be a deal breaker, I went with the cut-down Fury Pro because after a 6 month wait I was tired of waiting and didn't want to spend the next couple of months waiting for the fixed Fury X's or doing a Loadsa and buying different brands just to send them all back and end up out of pocket and on the Fury Pro anyway.
If AMD don't release the fully unlocked RX Vega first that's gonna be very disappointing too.
I can live with that.
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I wonder if the RX Vega line will look different to the FE? Certainly at the very least it will be a different colour. Red instead of blue maybe?
Check a few posts above.
Depends on what kind of minimums we are talking about; a single 0.1ms drop to 38 fps from 80 would cause a minor annoyance while a 5s drop would be more cause for concern. Minimums are also highly dependent on the rest of the setup, especially when playing MP titles like BF1.
I was actually replying to that, the pictures I saw in that post from TPU were of FE. I am not interested in the FE and I am confident RX Vega for gamers won't be blue.
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I can live with that
My monitors a 75hz Freesync model so I'm happy with 74 fps max and minimums as high as possible, If I could game with minimums staying around or above 50/55/60 that would be ideal.
Aye. Better mins for life!
WCCFT's comment section is a treasure trove of trolls, baits, cringe, and worse haha.
Saw this being posted as well. People there going mental between each other.
lol, you said that already on post #11032
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I'm struggling to get my head around this part since GPU's are already have 1000's of small cores already on the die I don't get what advantage of having multiple smaller die's on a single die would bring (although one possible disadvantage could be increase delays timings).
Pretty sure that was true for the scenario where they used a vram-limited GPU (should help bring the price down if they decide to release a 4Gb Vega which should theoretically perform as good as an 8Gb or 12Gb card).
His exacts words were: "To realize the full potential of HBCC, yes we will need to see content from game developers use larger datasets. But we have seen some interesting gains even on current software, particularly in min frame rates." English is not my native language but it's obvious: content from game developers use larger datasets -> realize the full potential of HBCC.
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