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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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It looked like it too me but then he said the RX versions would be better optimized for gaming which seems a bit weird if they are the exact same chip, Does he mean the FE uses a slightly different Pro driver, Which in turn makes me wonder, if you use it with the RX driver is it then no different to the RX versions apart from the memory size

Or potentially higher clocks as well.

Raja does state: "RX Vega will actually be faster than Frontier version!"
 
Or potentially clocks as well.

It's annoying as it's just left more questions unanswered. If the water cooled Frontier can run on the gaming drivers and be every bit as fast as the RX cards when doing so I'd probably just grab one of them on release but I won't do it on the off chance. It's all too vague for me.
We've already heard that the cache controller isn't a work with anything out the box tech as many hoped it would be so that automatically rules out the 4gb version in my books and it makes me lean towards wanting more than 8gb's of memory just to maximise longevity,
It's going to be a one off for me as I can't afford to keep upgrading all the time especially with prices as they are.
 
It's annoying as it's just left more questions unanswered. If the water cooled Frontier can run on the gaming drivers and be every bit as fast as the RX cards when doing so I'd probably just grab one of them on release but I won't do it on the off chance. It's all too vague for me.
We've already heard that the cache controller isn't a work with anything out the box tech as many hoped it would be so that automatically rules out the 4gb version in my books and it makes me lean towards wanting more than 8gb's of memory just to maximise longevity,
It's going to be a one off for me as I can't afford to keep upgrading all the time especially with prices as they are.

Aye, we'll need to wait for Computex at any rate, although they didn't say the HBCC would Not work. They said they saw increased minimums even from non-"optimised" games as well.

To realize the full potential of HBCC, yes we will need to see content from game developers use larger datasets. But we have seen some interesting gains even on current software, particularly in min frame rates. Part of the goal of launching Radeon Vega Frontier edition, is to help speed up that process.

RX will be fully optimized gaming drivers, as well as a few other goodies that I can't tell you about just yet...

I'm interested in the difference of performance of the FE vs RX as well, and if it's only drivers making the difference a little bit of clock speeds.

Maybe it'll be like the FirePro D700's, where it could use both FirePro, and Radeon drivers; and even support Crossfire X for gaming.

Considering everything he's said; including the gaming demos running of the Frontier Edition, I'm excited to see what they show at Computex.
 
We've already heard that the cache controller isn't a work with anything out the box tech as many hoped it would be so that automatically rules out the 4gb version in my books and it makes me lean towards wanting more than 8gb's of memory just to maximise longevity,

Same here. I was afraid of this and was trying to keep people from hyping it up too much...

Anyway, on another note: nice of AMD to engage with the community directly like this.
 
Same here. I was afraid of this and was trying to keep people from hyping it up too much...

Anyway, on another note: nice of AMD to engage with the community directly like this.

They also say they saw increased minimums in other titles that weren't optimized; so it could still be very nice.

[]To realize the full potential of HBCC, yes we will need to see content from game developers use larger datasets. But we have seen some interesting gains even on current software, particularly in min frame rates. Part of the goal of launching Radeon Vega Frontier edition, is to help speed up that process.
 
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gfxchiptweeterIn Raja We Trust 27 points an hour ago

One thing for certain is that Vega Instinct is well positioned to deliver dramatically better performance per dollar;, and TCO(total-cost-of-system ownership) is probably the most important metric to our machine learning and hyperscale customers and combined with Epic/Naples - Vega is extremely attractive..

You want a joke:)

Vega needs some extra Volta(ge) for overclocking:)


He made a joke about Volta again....what on earth ...
 
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Uh, I don't get it. It will need extra voltage, and I always saw that "poster" as Poor Voltage, meaning Vega will be better for power than Polaris which was a mess.

Entire thing is rather lighthearted about Needing more Volta(age) to overclock. Just a play on words.

Well, supposedly it uses the "Infinity Fabric" and all those sensors to adjust in real-time. If they can at least 'turn off' all those idle TFLOPs, it should make a dent in consumption. I doubt they'll leapfrog past Nvidia any time soon though...
 
I don't see the problem to be honest. It is a joke for god sakes. Bit sad getting upset about such things imo :p

Regarding HBCC, what I understood is, to get full benefit of it the developer can design the game to make use of it using larger datasets. It would be like an option in game menus that will be greyed out unless you have hbcc for example. Otherwise it still works on some older games anyway. Which is what was expected is it not?
 
HBCC is unlikely to make much difference on older games like say Crysis which only uses 2-3gb at most even at 4K. But on games being released the past year or two with no optimisation HBCC may have an impact. Another game that comes to mind is Resident Evil 7 which seems to be memory hungry.

Either way it is very nice tech to have. If developers actually make full use of it in the future, the results could be very nice :)
 

Why even bother? AMD isn't in such a position that such jokes can be made. If anything, this sort of thing just makes AMD look bad. They haven't even beaten Pascal yet (since we know jack-all about Vega's performance), they shouldn't even be looking at Volta. Are they trying to bait Nvidia or something?

The joke goes two-fold too, since he mentions more voltage for overclocking. AMD's cards have been terrible overclockers recently, heck people couldn't even really overclock the Fury GPUs. Is he trying to suggest that Vega will be very overclockable? Is that the hidden nugget? But it would be nice if it beats Pascal for overclocking purposes. They could get around temperature/efficiency issues that way. Clock/volt it low for better efficiency and if people want, they can throw heat and efficiency away for better clocks. Again, AMD shouldn't be (promising) joking about such things and getting people's hopes if they can't deliver.

An awful lot of pressure is on AMD already for what they will reveal at the end of this month, Raja has now just added onto that pile.
 
Why even bother? AMD isn't in such a position that such jokes can be made. If anything, this sort of thing just makes AMD look bad. They haven't even beaten Pascal yet (since we know jack-all about Vega's performance), they shouldn't even be looking at Volta. Are they trying to bait Nvidia or something?

The joke goes two-fold too, since he mentions more voltage for overclocking. AMD's cards have been terrible overclockers recently, heck people couldn't even really overclock the Fury GPUs. Is he trying to suggest that Vega will be very overclockable? Is that the hidden nugget? But it would be nice if it beats Pascal for overclocking purposes. They could get around temperature/efficiency issues that way. Clock/volt it low for better efficiency and if people want, they can throw heat and efficiency away for better clocks. Again, AMD shouldn't be (promising) joking about such things and getting people's hopes if they can't deliver.

An awful lot of pressure is on AMD already for what they will reveal at the end of this month, Raja has now just added onto that pile.
Lol.
 
Why even bother? AMD isn't in such a position that such jokes can be made. If anything, this sort of thing just makes AMD look bad. They haven't even beaten Pascal yet (since we know jack-all about Vega's performance), they shouldn't even be looking at Volta. Are they trying to bait Nvidia or something?

The joke goes two-fold too, since he mentions more voltage for overclocking. AMD's cards have been terrible overclockers recently, heck people couldn't even really overclock the Fury GPUs. Is he trying to suggest that Vega will be very overclockable? Is that the hidden nugget? But it would be nice if it beats Pascal for overclocking purposes. They could get around temperature/efficiency issues that way. Clock/volt it low for better efficiency and if people want, they can throw heat and efficiency away for better clocks. Again, AMD shouldn't be (promising) joking about such things and getting people's hopes if they can't deliver.

An awful lot of pressure is on AMD already for what they will reveal at the end of this month, Raja has now just added onto that pile.

No more childish jokes please from AMD, it is time for them to put up or shut up.

The real joke is the Pascal Titan was launched last August and it will still be faster than anything that Vega has to offer 12 months later.

I want to buy Vega as the world is not all about overpriced Titans, I don't want to see childish jokes from AMD if that is all they have offer at the moment.
 
No more childish jokes please from AMD, it is time for them to put up or shut up.

The real joke is the Pascal Titan was launched last August and it will still be faster than anything that Vega has to offer 12 months later.

I want to buy Vega as the world is not all about overpriced Titans, I don't want to see childish jokes from AMD if that is all they have offer at the moment.
ROTFL!
 
There might be a 16GB variant of Radeon RX Vega..
The Chief of RTG also said that they will look into 16GB variant of Radeon RX Vega.

wickedplayer494: Can we pretty please get a 16 GB variant of Radeon RX Vega?

RK: We will definitely look at that…
So that would mean VEGA will be a 8gb card with 480 GB/s bandwidth? The 1080ti has 484GB/s with 11gb of RAM.

Maybe im being stupid, but what was the big advantage of HBM2 over standard memory? is the latency better or something? cos it doesnt sound like its a major leap over existing tech, but costs a lot more.

I guess VEGA will handle memory somewhat different, but in 4k we can already see 6-8gb being used.
 
No more childish jokes please from AMD, it is time for them to put up or shut up.

The real joke is the Pascal Titan was launched last August and it will still be faster than anything that Vega has to offer 12 months later.

I want to buy Vega as the world is not all about overpriced Titans, I don't want to see childish jokes from AMD if that is all they have offer at the moment.

Lots of people feeling the same about that joke. Makes it really awkward for me to admit: I thought it was funny.

Ok, maybe he should've added /s....
 
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