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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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D.P. said:
Correction, whenever somebody spouts rubbish about AND or Nvidia I will often correct them.
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Tbf i never seeing you defend amds corner when there is rubbish spouted about them. Only when its positive. And only when its negative about nvidia. I mean that whole 10x faster than maxwell isn't even accurate but you make out it is like its factual because we cnt have ppl think nvidia lied lol or bent the truth. It kinda paints a picture tbh D.P
 
r7slayer said:
Tbf i never seeing you defend amds corner when there is rubbish spouted about them. Only when its positive. And only when its negative about nvidia. I mean that whole 10x faster than maxwell isn't even accurate but you make out it is like its factual because we cnt have ppl think nvidia lied lol or bent the truth. It kinda paints a picture tbh D.P
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This is 100% true haaa
 
r7slayer said:
Tbf i never seeing you defend amds corner when there is rubbish spouted about them. Only when its positive. And only when its negative about nvidia. I mean that whole 10x faster than maxwell isn't even accurate but you make out it is like its factual because we cnt have ppl think nvidia lied lol or bent the truth. It kinda paints a picture tbh D.P
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+1
 
shankly1985 said:
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I was about to post this. Even the apparent 'AMD fanboy' admits that Vega won't beat a 1080ti and that Volta will increase the distance between AMD high-end and Nvidia high-end. A shame. All we can hope is that big Vega is priced like a 1080 (or better) or that the smaller one can beat a 1070 in price. Such cards will be appealing in the meanwhile, before Volta comes along and wrecks AMD's parade. It's as AdoredTV says:

AMD simply can't command the same prices for graphics cards that Nvidia can. Nvidia doesn't need a high bandwidth cache controller, they can just stick on 16 GB of HBM and then stick another $300 on the price of the graphics card ...and people will pay it!

And at the end we saw a Radeon Vega Frontier Edition with a picture of a mountain. Which I thought was very apt, because they have got a mountain to climb and then some, before they are even close to Nvidia again.
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There we go, saved you having to watch the video. The other bit was obviously confirming that Vega can't beat 1080ti, where they replay the Sniper Elite 4k benchmark with a 1080ti, getting 10fps+ over the Vega.

These aren't the best of time for consumer GPUs at all, even Nvidia buyers have been getting shafted since the 600 series, where Nvidia has been selling us mid-tier cards as top-tier and rebranding top tier as things like 'Titan' or 'x80ti' (Linus admits it in his Nvidia GPUs through 10 years video). I guess we'll either have to settle with not particularly competitive performance with Vega or paying too much with Nvidia. If Vega fails to price well against 1070 and 1080... a real shame, I guess I'd rather then just wait till Volta and buy something like a 1080ti at clearance prices.
 
Almost fell out of my chair laughing at that nvidia held the moral highground :D:eek:

DP couldn't say anything bad about nvidia even with proof in front of him and a gun to his head...
 
D.P. said:
You are deluding yourself if you think AMD acts any differently to Nvidia. In facting recent years Nvidia have definitely held the moral high ground.
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Rubbish, They're as bad as each other.

So according to you The 970 ram fiasco and Founder edition price hike are holding the high ground?

If that's the high ground WoW! :o(

I agree that AMD are no better but to claim the moral high ground for Nvidia after the way they've taken advantage of the PC gamer due to the lack of competition is laughable.
 
mahius said:
There we go, saved you having to watch the video. The other bit was obviously confirming that Vega can't beat 1080ti, where they replay the Sniper Elite 4k benchmark with a 1080ti, getting 10fps+ over the Vega.
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So the 1080ti that was overclocked to 1.96Ghz was at most 10 fps faster, than the stock Air Cooled Frontier Edition running non gaming drivers.

A card that Raja said will also be slower than the Radeon RX equivalent, which has better optimised drivers for gaming and extra goodies he wasn't allowed to talk about yet.

That's not bad if priced correctly. Even more so when most reviews of the reference 1080Ti puts it around 65 FPS average in that game at 4K
 
Kaapstad said:
The bloke is clueless !!!

The funniest part of this video before I stopped watching is hearing the guys voice change when he stops talking about NVidia and switches to AMD (7:12).:D
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I for one think he's spot on. Ever since the January presentations I've been saying Vega is prosumer/data-centre focused and that we'll be lucky if it even gets close to 1080ti in performance. People need to realise and accept that.
 
mahius said:
I was about to post this. Even the apparent 'AMD fanboy' admits that Vega won't beat a 1080ti and that Volta will increase the distance between AMD high-end and Nvidia high-end. A shame. All we can hope is that big Vega is priced like a 1080 (or better) or that the smaller one can beat a 1070 in price. Such cards will be appealing in the meanwhile, before Volta comes along and wrecks AMD's parade. It's as AdoredTV says:



There we go, saved you having to watch the video. The other bit was obviously confirming that Vega can't beat 1080ti, where they replay the Sniper Elite 4k benchmark with a 1080ti, getting 10fps+ over the Vega.

These aren't the best of time for consumer GPUs at all, even Nvidia buyers have been getting shafted since the 600 series, where Nvidia has been selling us mid-tier cards as top-tier and rebranding top tier as things like 'Titan' or 'x80ti' (Linus admits it in his Nvidia GPUs through 10 years video). I guess we'll either have to settle with not particularly competitive performance with Vega or paying too much with Nvidia. If Vega fails to price well against 1070 and 1080... a real shame, I guess I'd rather then just wait till Volta and buy something like a 1080ti at clearance prices.
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He is dismissing 2 things:
First we've already seen a Timespy bench with 1600MHz clicks and 1080ti performance.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ne...k-fire-strike-performance-result-spotted.html
Second: The Sniper video he showed run on a 7700k, while the Vega video probably on a Ryzen. That alone can make a few FPS difference. Plus the 1080ti is overclocked, while the Frontier Vega is probably running lower clocks than what we will see at AIB cards.
 
akarypid said:
I for one think he's spot on. Ever since the January presentations I've been saying Vega is prosumer/data-centre focused and that we'll be lucky if it even gets close to 1080ti in performance. People need to realise and accept that.
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Using that logic Pascal and Volta are prosumer and data centre/machine learning.

That's all that was shown off for P100 and V100 after all, and they all have massive compute solely for those tasks.
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What people forget is Vega will be judged by what its bang for buck ratio is in the same way as the RX480/580 are, not whether it can beat card X Y or Z from NVidia.

Anyone who is that obsessed about having the fastest card available can go out and buy a Titan Xp but as most people would agree only a fool would do that.
 
Kaapstad said:
What people forget is Vega will be judged by what its bang for buck ratio is in the same way as the RX480/580 are, not whether it can beat card X Y or Z from NVidia.

Anyone who is that obsessed about having the fastest card available can go out and buy a Titan Xp but as most people would agree only a fool would do that.
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Exactly, it's always been about Bang for Buck, especially for anyone bar the top 1% of enthusiasts that always need the top of the right the minute it's out.

We'll not see anything remotely like that from AMD until they're well out of debt and have the money for the R&D. Raja mentioned having 8 of the "right" engineers for Vega; where as Volta had a R&D budget of 3 billion; and whole lot more people working on that.
 
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