AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

[JediFragger]

Frontier launching in June means that Vega is still technically coming in H1, hence keeping to their timetable. Wouldn't surprise me if gaming Vega slipped til July.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

think this
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gp...t_the_rx_vega_being_2_months_away_are_false/1

catching the wrong end of the wording. but Still RX version will launch Q3 no matter how you think of it, Think it will be Week One of Q3 , with Frontier being last week or two of H1/Q2. again AMD havent lied about getting out "Vega" before H2

Jaysus do people even go through this thread? ( Guess not given all the off topic ) Here's ALL the quotes from Su regarding vega, and a sound clip of what she said.

Here's all the sources and quotes related to Vega from the JP Morgan presentation from the previous page.

Only 8 days until Computex and we find out what's going down.

Streamclip of the Event ( very soon there after *Frontier Edition )
https://streamable.com/9p5fo

Edit: Here's the full transcript.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/40...ce193ed410c5e811ffab119f192ae3f&uprof=45&dr=1

We think we are very well positioned in the market with our products with our Zen-based family of processors on both the PC side and then very soon to launch in the datacenter side, and we’re also very excited about our Vega graphics set of processors that will launch over the next couple of months as well.

Yes, so we’re very excited about Vega. Vega is a brand new architecture and actually has really the world’s most advanced memory architecture for CPUs. What we did announce at our Analyst Day is that the first shipping Vega will be the frontier editions, which will ship with 16 gigabytes of memory and it will ship towards the latter half of June. You will see the enthusiast gaming platform, the machine learning platform, the professional graphics platform very soon thereafter.

So our EPIC CPUs we’ll be launching later this month – I’m sorry, in June and our Vega GPUs also in a similar timeframe.

Remember Vega is Frontier Edition, Radeon RX ( multiple versions ), Radeon Pro ( Multiple Versions ), Instinct, and APUs.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

If only this company fired up the Steam Hardware survey for their AMD cards.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@N19h7m4r3 sorry, was referring to the Guy mentioning Gaming Vega would be launched 2 months after Frontier

 

[DragonQ]

What people forget is Vega will be judged by what its bang for buck ratio is in the same way as the RX480/580 are, not whether it can beat card X Y or Z from NVidia.

Anyone who is that obsessed about having the fastest card available can go out and buy a Titan Xp but as most people would agree only a fool would do that.

Sadly, judging by current sales, it'll actually be judged by "it's not nVidia".

 

[akarypid]

What people forget is Vega will be judged by what its bang for buck ratio is in the same way as the RX480/580 are, not whether it can beat card X Y or Z from NVidia.

Anyone who is that obsessed about having the fastest card available can go out and buy a Titan Xp but as most people would agree only a fool would do that.

+1

 

[pandatm]

Funny thing is, it didn't even slow down sales!!!

We can talk all day about how misinformed the general public is... and not just in the hardware department

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Sadly, judging by current sales, it'll actually be judged by "it's not nVidia".

People are judging that based on Steam Hardware survey; but overall AMD still took 7% market share with Polaris and kept it. Despite NVIDIA releasing the two 1060's, 1050's, and another Titan and Ti.

There's a video above you from a "mining" company stating they have at least 10,000 AMD cards; mostly RX 480s. Now if only places like that booted up steam to run the survey.

 

[DragonQ]

People are judging that based on Steam Hardware survey; but overall AMD still took 7% market share with Polaris and kept it. Despite NVIDIA releasing the two 1060's, 1050's, and another Titan and Ti.

There's a video above you from a "mining" company stating they have at least 10,000 AMD cards; mostly RX 480s. Now if only places like that booted up steam to run the survey.

Not sure what your point is. If AMD gain market share due to coin miners that doesn't help gamers in the slightest; it'll just incentivise them to optimise their cards for that purpose instead. Gamers buy nVidia at an overwhelming rate, mostly due to marketing.

 

[EsaT]

You are deluding yourself if you think AMD acts any differently to Nvidia. In facting recent years Nvidia have definitely held the moral high ground.

Last time Nvidia had moral high ground was almost 20 years ago and when they were that small company below 3dfx.
After that they went Apple, Intel and Microsoft level dirty forgetting all their talk about open standards and fair competition environment.
Even if since Kepler they've had better hardware than AMD they keep using dirty tricks.

Starting from sabotaging games on AMD, by making games use techs excessively because those slow down AMD cards more.
Lately with closed GameWorks seriously preventing game developers from optimizing their games for both and AMD from optimizing drivers for game.
Driver "bugs" forcing lower settings.
"4GB" memory of GTX970...
Not to mention G-sync based on feature in Embedded DisplayPort standard.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Not sure what your point is. If AMD gain market share due to coin miners that doesn't help gamers in the slightest; it'll just incentivise them to optimise their cards for that purpose instead. Gamers buy nVidia at an overwhelming rate, mostly due to marketing.

Money is money, something AMD needs. If they need to focus on data centre for now to get out of debt all the better.
Considering Raja has stated once again that by 2015 the company considered consumer graphics to be dead, it's amazing they're still able to gain marketshare, and put out something remotely competitive, 480 vs 1060.

Once they're out of debt they'll finally have more money for R&D to focus entirely on Graphics through RTG.

What would also help consumer sales though is actually having enough products available. Miners buy in massive bulk, and the 480 had massive shortages for months around the world. Most consumers just couldn't even get one; and by the time they could AIB 1060s were out.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

I couldn't care less if Vega doesn't beat a 1080ti, I don't need to have the fastest card to brag to my gaming friends. I couldn't care less if a comparative top tier card from AMD is coming a year late to the party either. I've said all along, it's all to do with price for me and finally having an option for a high end card, and lets face it, it's still going to be bonkers fast. 1080 non ti is still very fast, hell even a 1070 is no slouch. The magic figure for me is £400, if they can get the RX Vega in for around £400, that would still be very attractive to me and all these guys still rocking 290/390/480 type cards with a Freesync screen. AMD will never beat an Nvidia top tier card, will just never happen, so I'm just not getting all teary eyed over Vega doom and gloom. It's still going to be brilliant at 1440p for me.

 

[TNA]

What people forget is Vega will be judged by what its bang for buck ratio is in the same way as the RX480/580 are, not whether it can beat card X Y or Z from NVidia.

Anyone who is that obsessed about having the fastest card available can go out and buy a Titan Xp but as most people would agree only a fool would do that.

What did I just read

Funny thing is, it didn't even slow down sales!!!

It speeded up the 980 sales.

When a company can screw a customer over, and the said customer throws even more money at them, you know the competition has a LOT of work to do. lol

 

[TNA]

AMD will never beat an Nvidia top tier card, will just never happen

It has happened so many times and will likely happen again in the future. Though it would likely not last long.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

It has happened so many times and will likely happen again in the future. Though it would likely not last long.

I cant see it ever happening in the future was how it was meant to read. It's very unlikely AMD will be able to hold the title of having the fastest gaming card any time soon, if ever again.

 

[Nexus18]

I couldn't care less if Vega doesn't beat a 1080ti, I don't need to have the fastest card to brag to my gaming friends. I couldn't care less if a comparative top tier card from AMD is coming a year late to the party either. I've said all along, it's all to do with price for me and finally having an option for a high end card, and lets face it, it's still going to be bonkers fast. 1080 non ti is still very fast, hell even a 1070 is no slouch. The magic figure for me is £400, if they can get the RX Vega in for around £400, that would still be very attractive to me and all these guys still rocking 290/390/480 type cards with a Freesync screen. AMD will never beat an Nvidia top tier card, will just never happen, so I'm just not getting all teary eyed over Vega doom and gloom. It's still going to be brilliant at 1440p for me.

Preach brother





Still unsure what I will be willing to spend myself, ideally, no more than £300 for 1070 or better performance but.... if one of the vega cards can beat a 1080 for £400 (in dx 11) then I'll pay the extra £100.

I might even hold of till some of the new games (i.e. batman, far cry 5, middle earth) get released as the 290 is still holding up very well at 2560x1080 and I imagine with any future dx 12/vulkan titles, the 290/390/480 will still be incredibly good.

1080ti/1080/1070 are nice cards for the performance in dx 11 but realistically I can't see myself going nvidia any time soon until:

1. they get their low level API performance sorted
2. support adaptive sync (biggest thing that stops me from going with them)
3. better price to performance (this will probably be better when vega launches, although I would rather buy a more future proofed GPU with regards to low level apis)

 

[TNA]

I cant see it ever happening in the future was how it was meant to read. It's very unlikely AMD will be able to hold the title of having the fastest gaming card any time soon, if ever again.

I can see it. Though I do not think they would keep the crown for long when it eventually happens.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Funny thing is, it didn't even slow down sales!!!

Aye just goes to show the hive mind mentality of buyers.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I cant see it ever happening in the future was how it was meant to read. It's very unlikely AMD will be able to hold the title of having the fastest gaming card any time soon, if ever again.

I can see it. Though I do not think they would keep the crown for long when it eventually happens.

I can see it happening in the future as well. They're finally focussing on consumer discrete graphics again, and once they're out of debt they'll finally have more money to pour into RTG.

 

[DragonQ]

Money is money, something AMD needs. If they need to focus on data centre for now to get out of debt all the better.
Considering Raja has stated once again that by 2015 the company considered consumer graphics to be dead, it's amazing they're still able to gain marketshare, and put out something remotely competitive, 480 vs 1060.

Once they're out of debt they'll finally have more money for R&D to focus entirely on Graphics through RTG.

What would also help consumer sales though is actually having enough products available. Miners buy in massive bulk, and the 480 had massive shortages for months around the world. Most consumers just couldn't even get one; and by the time they could AIB 1060s were out.

Yeah that's a fair point. I suppose it's a balancing act - yes they need revenue streams but they also can't afford to slip further behind nVidia in the gaming segment. The more proprietory APIs nVidia push to developers, and the more fancy tech AMD creates that only end up getting used by a handful of games, the harder it'll be to actually catch up.