AMD Vesuvius R9 295 X2 Inbound

[Boomstick777]

I think both AMD and NVidia will pull that trick again when they get on to 20nm, I don't think we will see any full fat GPU chips until well into next year.

Possibly, but if those chips can beat 290X/GTX 780Ti performance with much less power use, they will be still be decent.

 

[tommybhoy]

One for the gossip goats.

@Matt,

tweet Roy and tell him he missed Ryan wearing his Nvidia 3D Vision glasses.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

@Matt,

tweet Roy and tell him he missed Ryan wearing his Nvidia 3D Vision glasses.

It seems TR got one too.

Rollo...

Hopefully not for a while longer,even though he is over on Bit-tech still.

OTH,one or two people who seem to post on many forums,seem to follow his MO.

 

[LtMatt]

Hopefully not for a while longer,even though he is over on Bit-tech still.

OTH,one or two people who seem to post on many forums,seem to follow his MO,even though they don't appear to NV FG.

What or who are you talking about Cat?

 

[Orangey]

Rollo was an epic NV troll who turned out to be in the Nvidia guerrilla marketing program in a huge scandal. He posted on Anand's.

Back then the whole viral thing was only a myth and the fact that Nvidia was even employing such people was considered a conspiracy theory for a while.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Back in the day when people were paid to troll. There was a rumour he'd learnt Chinese not long ago, as there were a lot of reports from users saying Kepler was inexpensive lol.

 

[Gregster]

AMD Radeon R9 295X2 Dual Hawaii Graphics Card Features 1 GHz Core Clock and Hybrid Cooling – Announcement at GDC 2014?

Yesterday, AMD teased their upcoming Radeon R9 295X2 graphics card featuring Dual Hawaii cores by sending out Polaroid pictures to reviewers of different tech sites with a ‘Two is better than one’ tagline. It looks like dutch site bouweenpc has managed to obtain some critical details of AMD’s upcoming Radeon R9 295X2 card.AMD Radeon R9 295X2

The card shot above is the Radeon HD 7990!
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 Dual Hawaii Graphics Card Features 1 GHz Core Clock and Hybrid Cooling
I had mentioned in the previous leak yesterday that AMD may use a different naming scheme for the card and i had used the Radeon R9 290X2 as a place holder, turns out that it was true to some extent as the latest details name the card as Radeon R9 295X2. We do know that the card is codenamed Vesuvius which a is a stratovolcano in the Gulf of Naples, Italy. We said that the next generation AMD Dual-Chip Hawaii graphics card will feature two Hawaii XT cores but we believed that the card would be underclocked if AMD were to manage the heat and power consumption of their Hawaii GPU core.
We suspected that AMD would use the full Hawaii GPU configuration which features 2816 stream processors, 176 texture mapping units and 64 ROPs equating to a total of 5632 cores. But the new details mention a 1 GHz clock speed for the card which would mean bizarre amount of heat and power production from this graphics card so it could only possibly mean one of two things, either AMD is using the R9 290 variant of the Hawaii core which features 2560 Stream processors, 160 TMUs and 64 ROPs or their Hybrid cooler design is that much effective to tone down the thermal levels of the card. I will still go with the second possibility since AMD managed to release the Radeon HD 7990 last year at 1 GHz clock speed with full Tahiti XT cores although that involved a lot of waiting and a large cooler with triple fan design.
We still don’t know how legit details might be and i advise to take them with a grain of salt hence ill be sticking with the older specifications in the chart given below:

The cooler would be Hybrid which means it will involve both air and liquid cooling. This is a same implementation as ASUS which have released several cards over the last year adopting this design such as the ROG ARES II, ROG GTX 770 Poseidon and ROG GTX 780 Poseidon. The cooler may involve an independent Closed Loop All-In-One liquid cooler with an 120mm radiator that can be attached within a CPU case. The 120mm radiator would be equipped with single, dual or triple 120mm PWM controlled fans. This design will effectively help to keep the temperatures of the Radeon R9 295X2 in check. As for the power consumption, we are looking at a 375W or more for the card considering just how hungry the Hawaii GPU gets.
In terms of performance, we are looking at a legendary graphics card which will feature some decent scaling thanks to the XDMA CrossFire design implemented on the new cards and hopefully some optimized drivers would be available at launch too. The card would be place directly against the GeForce GTX 790 which will also launch in the upcoming months or possibly even earlier at NVIDIA’s GPU Technology Conference on 15th March 2014. The Radeon R9 295X2 will possibly be announced at GDC 2014 behind closed doors. If you go back a year, you would know that the Radeon HD 7990 was also showcased at GDC (2013) where it was seen running the first single player showcase of DICE’s Battlefield 4. The card was showcased behind closed doors but we managed to get information during that day and you can find our post here.


Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-dual-hawaii-graphics-card-details-lea/#ixzz2w0mcnmcr

Hybrid cooling it will be then (if wccftech are correct of course) and not surprised given the heat that the ref cards produced.

 

[Kaapstad]

Hybrid cooling it will be then (if wccftech are correct of course) and not surprised given the heat that the ref cards produced.

I think the specs in the table are just made up, two 8 pin connectors is no where near enough. I think a full speced x2 290X card would need four 8 pin connectors as it would only get power from one PCI-E slot not two that separate cards would use.

And as for TDP, two of my 290Xs overclocked use nearly 700 watts between them.

 

[vsg28]

Ya I am also calling BS on those specs. I would imagine we see underclocked 290s with an 8+8+6 configuration.

I mentioned this on OCN but I won't be surprised if all this teasing was just for the Asus ares 3. Them Hawaii chips are still pretty scarce to come by for vendors so everyone getting enough for a dual GPU will be surprising to me. Sapphire gets their 8gb vram model, Asus gets dual GPU and MSI looks to be having the best overclocker at the moment.

 

[ubersonic]

Doesn't a dual GPU card use significantly less power than Xfire/SLI because a lot of the hardware is shared instead of doubled up? I.E the 7990's TDP only being 1.5x what the 7970's was, the same was true with the 6990/6970 and the 5970/5870.

 

[Silent_Scone]

You'd think so but most of them take up slightly more. It's marginal though.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Doesn't a dual GPU card use significantly less power than Xfire/SLI because a lot of the hardware is shared instead of doubled up? I.E the 7990's TDP only being 1.5x what the 7970's was, the same was true with the 6990/6970 and the 5970/5870.

I think the biggest power savings are made through picking lower voltage chips, though don't quote me on that.

Wouldn't expect miracles on power usage. I would take a guess around 500-550w for a 290x dual version if they can keep it cooler than the reference design.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Whatever the outcome, it's going to need more than a 850w PSU

 

[Orangey]

When will mobo slots start providing 150W?

 

[mmj_uk]

ah nvm I was looking at the wrong one.

 

[Make]

When will mobo slots start providing 150W?

That'd give a new meaning to small form factor cases and cards.

But, then the mobo would have to have very beefy Vrm's/cooling for them, so I guess we'd be back to mobo active cooling.. I for one am not looking forward to those small noisy fans again.

I prefer going with power connectors, if they could just place em at the end of the card.. cables could be hidden better.

 

[Freddie1980]

I think the biggest power savings are made through picking lower voltage chips, though don't quote me on that.

Wouldn't expect miracles on power usage. I would take a guess around 500-550w for a 290x dual version if they can keep it cooler than the reference design.

I thinm also using higber quality pcb parts can reduce power draw as well. Look at some of the 3rd part 290x reviews one of the sapphire models used 30watts less then the stock version.

 

[Kaapstad]

I think this could end very badly as I think AMD are going to get pretty close to the limit and may end up with a huge pile of RMAs.

 

[LtMatt]

I think this could end very badly as I think AMD are going to get pretty close to the limit and may end up with a huge pile of RMAs.

I doubt that actually. 7990 was a fantastic piece of kit. I expect the 295x2 (or whatever its called) to be built with similar quality.

 

[Kaapstad]

I doubt that actually. 7990 was a fantastic piece of kit. I expect the 295x2 (or whatever its called) to be built with similar quality.

There will be a lot more watts to deal with, I think AMD would be very unwise to go with anything but a full cover prefitted waterblock.

They may even sell shedloads to the miners if they did the above.