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AMD vs Intel Single threading?

FYI der8auer on today's review about 3960X had CB20 run, including 9900KS, 9900KS @ 5.2 and 9900K.
Which shows that clocks mean nothing today when out of the box 3900X as fast in single thread at the 9900KS and the 9900K.
And takes overclocking 9900KS to 5.2Ghz to get ahead, but that requires serious cooling that no AIO let alone (air) heatsink can provide.

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from this video...

 
Panos said:
FYI der8auer on today's review about 3960X had CB20 run, including 9900KS, 9900KS @ 5.2 and 9900K.
Which shows that clocks mean nothing today when out of the box 3900X as fast in single thread at the 9900KS and the 9900K.
And takes overclocking 9900KS to 5.2Ghz to get ahead, but that requires serious cooling that no AIO let alone (air) heatsink can provide.
from this video...
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3900x smashes cinebench sure but its not the most fun game you can play on your gaming chip is it :D , when it comes to games it is still the case that Ryzen is close but no cigar really and that is what many are on about when it comes to single thread question as that is still where clockspeed counts.
 
sandys said:
3900x smashes cinebench sure but its not the most fun game you can play on your gaming chip is it :D , when it comes to games it is still the case that Ryzen is close but no cigar really and that is what many are on about when it comes to single thread question as that is still where clockspeed counts.
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Anyone buys those CPUs won't game at 1080p though but higher res and the majority doesn't have a RTX2080Ti either.
 
Interesting that on the 3960x/3970x the single core performance goes up with an all core overclock.
For all Ryzen chips it goes down.

That means you should definitely overclock your TR3000
 
sandys said:
3900x smashes cinebench sure but its not the most fun game you can play on your gaming chip is it :D , when it comes to games it is still the case that Ryzen is close but no cigar really and that is what many are on about when it comes to single thread question as that is still where clockspeed counts.
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Intel's last hope... precariously.
 
sandys said:
One of the 2 games that were faster, suprising that the stock 3600cl14 performance is so slow, many won't even have ram that fast on ryzen.
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Yes weirdly the tuned timings made very little if any difference, RoTR is one of only a couple in the games he tested, its also one of the few which perform particularly bad on Ryzen, probably a connection there...
 
sandys said:
Can you independently clock the core complexes on tr3, from images on the web it looked like you have the option but I haven't seen any reviews do it so it might just be Ryzen Master looking better than it is as it does on mine, loads of sliders but all locked together, would be quite handy to have more granular control.
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Yes and individual cores.
 
humbug said:
I've owned all sorts of CPU's in my time, i5 and i7's of various types, Athlon and Phenom CPU's, i even had an FX9590 for a while, great heater but not much use in a Desktop, My last AMD GPU was an R9 290, which was a great GPU but really the last such thing from AMD.

Anyway, the only narrative is the raw data. You told me ST should not be extrapolated for IPC as its not accurate and distorts the narrative. IPC is how much work a CPU can do at a given clock speed, if CPU A is 100% at 4Ghz and CPU B has 90% the IPC of CPU A then CPU B needs to run at 4.4Ghz to do the same work as CPU A, this is why its important, yes if you run CPU B at 4.8Ghz then you get 110% the performance of CPU A, that doesn't make IPC any less relevant, TNA runs his 3600 at 4.4Ghz 24/7, its takes a 5Ghz 8700K just to match it, at twice the power consumption and twice the heat output, even ignoring the cost difference that distinction is not skewed and it 'alone' matters. Yes it makes one better than the other, my FX9590 beat i5's in MT workloads at 5Ghz, was it a better CPU?

You told me your main usage is photo editing, and then showed me a slide of image export comparisons when your 9700K was 2 Seconds faster in that.

To quote what i said in another thread.



Another discussion where someone made the point that "Exporting" was just as quick on Intel as it was on Zen 2, you're using the same narrative... you have to do the work before you export it, in that Zen 2 is faster, if it takes you 25 minutes to render the image on Zen 2 vs 30 minutes on Intel then a 2-second difference (Or all things being equal, i suspect actually none) in exporting that image is completely irrelevant and to focus on such an argument instead of the actual performance difference during the workload you have to go through before you get to that stage is ridiculous and smacks of Ryan Shrout style distraction tactics.
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Yeah, Okay. Back to Single Threaded performance.

Here is my tuned 3900X Cinebench R20 and CPU-Z single threaded
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and here is my 9700K @ 5.2Ghz
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This is on a Windows 10 install that was cloned from one machine to another, so OS wise and re background apps running, everything is exactly the same apart from the respective drivers

Oh and here is the screenshot of my DXO 9700K with the "filters" showing just so it doesn't appear "strange" or suspicious to you.
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I presume there are no other tests you want me to run?
 
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