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AMD will live stream its 6th Jan CES 2020 press conference

The only reason I think AMD could possibly come out with anything is that Nvidia are claiming 50% perf improvement next gen and early on which normally suggests they know something and are putting their hype on too. Only cause it's been a while since we've seen such perf improvement touted really.
 
Curlyriff said:
The only reason I think AMD could possibly come out with anything is that Nvidia are claiming 50% perf improvement next gen and early on which normally suggests they know something and are putting their hype on too. Only cause it's been a while since we've seen such perf improvement touted really.
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I would much rather that was 50% cheaper.
 
jigger said:
I would much rather that was 50% cheaper.
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Same but I don't see that happening any time soon tbh. If I can get 2080ti performance for the cost of what the 980 was at launch then yeah that would be great but yeah.

That makes the £950 to £1200 price of the 2080ti close to the £500-£600 mark. Can dream hey.

Don't care if it's called a 3060 at that point then and they release stuff higher up stack because the performance of the 2080ti is more than enough for my gaming needs on reality.

I mean the biggest dream being that they launched back at reasonable pricing with the 3080ti at a £700 price point with 50% performance over the 2080ti but we all know that's not going to happen.
 
There are so many rumours as of late. Some such as Big Navi is not going to be launching until q2 2021, dunno if its true of course but I would not be surprised. Lets hope this isn't the case though. As much as I like AMD and what they have brought to market the GPU division is surely among the slowest snails in the world. My Vega is going to have to keep working for at least 1-1½ years more. Good thing I'm still on a 1080p screen :p. I'm going to watch the CES but I doubt i'll be much excited afterwards.
 
Phixsator said:
There are so many rumours as of late. Some such as Big Navi is not going to be launching until q2 2021, dunno if its true of course but I would not be surprised. Lets hope this isn't the case though. As much as I like AMD and what they have brought to market the GPU division is surely among the slowest snails in the world. My Vega is going to have to keep working for at least 1-1½ years more. Good thing I'm still on a 1080p screen :p. I'm going to watch the CES but I doubt i'll be much excited afterwards.
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AMD have been very strong in GPU market. Polaris is still a stand out option (4-5 years later) and 5700 cards have been the dominant mid range options since launch. If anything it’s Nvidia that needs to do more. The 2070S and 2080S should really be directly priced against the 5700 and 5700XT.
 
jigger said:
AMD have been very strong in GPU market. Polaris is still a stand out option (4-5 years later) and 5700 cards have been the dominant mid range options since launch. If anything it’s Nvidia that needs to do more. The 2070S and 2080S should really be directly priced against the 5700 and 5700XT.
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Depends on what view you take. From a pure performance viewpoint i would say that AMD has been lacking a lot lately. The 5700XT is certainly a step in the right direction but Vega 64 owners still don't have a solid upgrade path. However I certainly agree with you from a performance/dollar. nVidia certainly isn't an attractive buy once you take a look on the price. I just find it a bit sad that even the 1080 ti isn't entirely and surely beaten yet by AMD. But give it a few years and the lag of support for the card should do the trick.
 
Phixsator said:
Depends on what view you take. From a pure performance viewpoint i would say that AMD has been lacking a lot lately. The 5700XT is certainly a step in the right direction but Vega 64 owners still don't have a solid upgrade path. However I certainly agree with you from a performance/dollar. nVidia certainly isn't an attractive buy once you take a look on the price. I just find it a bit sad that even the 1080 ti isn't entirely and surely beaten yet by AMD. But give it a few years and the lag of support for the card should do the trick.
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Price to performance ratio should be the main driver. AMD understand this and although Nvidia must cement themselves a spot at the very top end of the market to secure a future, they are weak in many areas and Intel is looking to push Nvidia out of the market to take the fight to AMD and slow it’s growth. Intel are coming for graphics card market and will use every strong arm tactic in the book and beat Nvidia over the head with it. Nvidia need to be faster for a lot less money as they don’t have anything like the market influence AMD and Intel have.

Why don’t Vega users have a upgrade path and why did those users buy Vega. Those are the questions Nvidia should be asking. The reason is Vega offers more than just gaming and Nvidia want to charge double.
 
I think CES will be all about AMD taking over the mobile PC market and APU’s. It would be nice to see APU’s with graphics that makes the most of PC 3800 memory, or something with HBM.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Both companies are milking it in different ways. AMD are using it as a cost saver and Nvidia are using it to bully the market.
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Nvidia are milking it for sure, look at their profit per quarter. If AMD are milking it, look at their profit per quarter, it's a disaster if that's with them milking it.

It's simply a case of them putting most of their comparatively tiny (compared Intel) R&D into CPU development so the GPU side has to operate as efficiently as possible with the small resources they're left with.

EDIT: Sorry mate just saw you put milking it 'as a cost saver' which is true.
 
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Boot_Loop said:
Nvidia are milking it for sure, look at their profit per quarter. If AMD are milking it, look at their profit per quarter, it's a disaster if that's with them milking it.

It's simply a case of them putting most of their comparatively tiny (compared Intel) R&D into CPU development so the GPU side has to operate as efficiently as possible with the small resources they're left with.

EDIT: Sorry mate just saw you put milking it 'as a cost saver' which is true.
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No worries mate, the whole situation means less leap forward and less investment in architectures saving them money. It means they had much more to spend on Zen, now hopefully they can use the Zen money on gpu tech.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Both companies are milking it in different ways. AMD are using it as a cost saver and Nvidia are using it to bully the market.
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It’s shouldn’t have been possible for Polaris to hold out that long. The reason why is Nvidia ever increasing profit and marginal gains. Polaris come out as a midrange card and four years later it’s still selling well. Really by now Nvidia should have 8GB 1030 range cards beating Polaris.
 
jigger said:
It’s shouldn’t have been possible for Polaris to hold out that long. The reason why is Nvidia ever increasing profit and marginal gains. Polaris come out as a midrange card and four years later it’s still selling well. Really by now Nvidia should have 8GB 1030 range cards beating Polaris.
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Absolutely, it's the way monopolised markets shift. We can hope for a Zen moment soon, though I am not convinced it'll happen yet.
 
Nvidia didn't choose to become a monopoly. It's the GPU buying public that created this mess. I've always bought from the underdog because I hate monopolies and stagnation.

People must think "I'm just one person, my purchase wont effect the market. Therefore, I'll buy the best card I can with my hard earned cash"
 
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