AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

Scougar · 29 Apr 2020 at 03:02

LePhuronn said:
And why would Zen 4 not use DDR5? They're coming out at the same time.

Now I realize.... Not series 3xxx but Zen 4. My mistake.

LePhuronn · 29 Apr 2020 at 09:47

Scougar said:
Now I realize.... Not series 3xxx but Zen 4. My mistake.

Infuriating, isn't it

Especially when you throw in the APUs

FoxEye · 29 Apr 2020 at 10:07

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
https://twitter.com/AMDNews/status/1255251304890478596

Consumer models or server chips..

Best to assume Q1 2021 and not be disappointed

9-12 months wait still, I reckon.

Once B550 hits it will be hard not to jump to a 3700X if I see any good deals around

(£200 max

)

BigBANGtheory · 29 Apr 2020 at 14:27

its hard to say these days what launch actually means in terms of being able to freely purchase a product

Gerard · 29 Apr 2020 at 16:33

Never realised cooler master made these stock coolers.

Armageus · 29 Apr 2020 at 16:51

Gerard said:
Never realised cooler master made these stock coolers.

Me neither till I got mine and it had a link to download the coolermaster rgb software (although wasn't actually needed as connecting via USB works with MSI's software).

Seems a decent enough cooler tbh once fan curves are changed to stop it revving up and down as often.

humbug · 29 Apr 2020 at 17:02

They have for many years, as far back as Bulldozer at least, the smaller ones are face lifted and rebranded straight from Coolermasters catalogue. Wraigth Spire without the fancy bezel.

*Slow website*

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-air-coolers/x-dream-p115/

humbug · 29 Apr 2020 at 17:09

humbug said:
They have for many years, as far back as Bulldozer at least, the smaller ones are face lifted and rebranded straight from Coolermasters catalogue. Wraigth Spire without the fancy bezel.

*Slow website*

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-air-coolers/x-dream-p115/

Its too slow, here.... Sorry this ones the Wraith stealth.

LePhuronn · 29 Apr 2020 at 17:23

Armageus said:
although wasn't actually needed as connecting via USB works with MSI's software

You lose all the addressable though. I had a lovely combination going of static purple fan, chasing rainbow ring and static white AMD logo but Mystic Light kept killing the Coolermaster software, so controlled everything in Mystic Light and just gave me static colours on all 3 zones because of the USB connection, rather than RGB connection.

Was a shame, but it's not my build so she doesn't know any different

Armageus · 29 Apr 2020 at 17:26

LePhuronn said:
You lose all the addressable though. I had a lovely combination going of static purple fan, chasing rainbow ring and static white AMD logo but Mystic Light kept killing the Coolermaster software, so controlled everything in Mystic Light and just gave me static colours on all 3 zones because of the USB connection, rather than RGB connection.

Was a shame, but it's not my build so she doesn't know any different

My board's only got a 12v RGB header anyway so no addressable anyway - having it cycle with the boards onboard lighting and a RGB strip is fine for me though

Scougar · 29 Apr 2020 at 19:39

LePhuronn said:
Infuriating, isn't it Especially when you throw in the APUs

LOL. Yes, it is. My brain was going... 'wait.. something got delayed from 2020 to 2022, and no one is saying a darn thing about it. I went through the stories as well. It still didn't twig. Silly AMD numbering schemes. Clear as mud.

May your 3's be your 3's, and you 4's be your 4's! lol

LePhuronn · 29 Apr 2020 at 19:47

Scougar said:
Silly AMD numbering schemes. Clear as mud.

TBH it's only muddy if you're interested in/aware of the arch names as well.

Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, Zen 3, Zen 4 is easy enough on its own.
Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 is also easy enough, although the APUs do add complexity.

Tally the two together and that's when the mud starts forming!

LePhuronn · 29 Apr 2020 at 19:48

Armageus said:
My board's only got a 12v RGB header anyway so no addressable anyway - having it cycle with the boards onboard lighting and a RGB strip is fine for me though

Same on the Mortax MAX I used. Fully addressable Wraith using Coolmaster's software, but Mystic Light for B450 has no addressable capabilities because the boards don't.

Grim5 · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:57

AMD is doing very well. Revenue is up 40% and gross margin up 60% and net margin up 100% since the launch of Zen 2.

Not only is AMD moving more products but it's now actually making some money on those products and delivering shareholder value

Curlyriff · 29 Apr 2020 at 21:27

Panos said:
Go back to September 2019 in this discussion. Uploaded a video of a live AMD presentation to developers, has numerous details including the CCX removal etc.

Have you found that presentation yet you talk about cause I'm still yet to find the info to go with your post? Happy to see it but cannot locate it. Either an AMD archive or YT or an article on this would be great.

humbug · 29 Apr 2020 at 21:56

Curlyriff said:
Have you found that presentation yet you talk about cause I'm still yet to find the info to go with your post? Happy to see it but cannot locate it. Either an AMD archive or YT or an article on this would be great.

Discord.... ####

Panos · 29 Apr 2020 at 22:03

Curlyriff said:
Have you found that presentation yet you talk about cause I'm still yet to find the info to go with your post? Happy to see it but cannot locate it. Either an AMD archive or YT or an article on this would be great.

humbug said:
Discord.... ####

Humbug you have memory of goldfish, you have commented on the video back in October....

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33062853/

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp..._architecture_details_and_zen_4_genoa_plans/1

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...noa-architecture-microarchitecture,40561.html

http://www.redgamingtech.com/amd-confirms-zen-3-milan-details-64-cores-smt-2-and-8-cores-per-ccx/

For those like humbug having the memory of the goldfish.

Seems the video is retracted but there were several who have seen the AMD presentation the the I/O was at 7nm and more advanced than the Zen 2 I/O.

(we already see how advanced the PS5 I/O is atm).

Curlyriff · 29 Apr 2020 at 22:20

Panos said:
Humbug you have memory of goldfish, you have commented on the video back in October....

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33062853/

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp..._architecture_details_and_zen_4_genoa_plans/1

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...noa-architecture-microarchitecture,40561.html

http://www.redgamingtech.com/amd-confirms-zen-3-milan-details-64-cores-smt-2-and-8-cores-per-ccx/

For those like humbug having the memory of the goldfish.
Seems the video is retracted but there were several who have seen the AMD presentation the the I/O was at 7nm and more advanced than the Zen 2 I/O.

(we already see how advanced the PS5 I/O is atm).

Thanks, everything you've posted literally confirms still that they are CCX design with 8 core and they are not just CCD as you wouldn't be able to have a 12 or 16 core without CCX/CCD.

And none including the image you referenced back covered the I/O at all and some still reference 12nm or 14nm.

Panos · 29 Apr 2020 at 23:11

Curlyriff said:
Thanks, everything you've posted literally confirms still that they are CCX design with 8 core and they are not just CCD as you wouldn't be able to have a 12 or 16 core without CCX/CCD.

And none including the image you referenced back covered the I/O at all and some still reference 12nm or 14nm.

Is on the removed video explaining the new I/O at 7nm.

opethdisciple · 29 Apr 2020 at 23:17

Wrong thread.