I think I would want at least 80% performance
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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With the recent price rises I'm not even sure the 3600 is good value anymore especially when compared to the Intel 10400F which offers similar performance for 28% cheaper.
Clock for clock, Zen3 is 'roughly' 20% faster than Zen2 though that will vary depending on the use case.
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Looks like I will have no trouble getting my hands on a 5800X since most people are strangely completely uninterested in it. 
- Does no one see the benefit of a higher base clock?
- Does no one see the benefit of 8 cores on a single CCX?
It's deja vu, no one was interested in my Asus 3080 TUF pre-launch pick either... then the reviews started coming in lol.
- Does no one see the benefit of a higher base clock?
- Does no one see the benefit of 8 cores on a single CCX?
It's deja vu, no one was interested in my Asus 3080 TUF pre-launch pick either... then the reviews started coming in lol.
I guess this is where it all comes down to personal tastes. Most people upgrading to Zen3 will likely either already have AM4 motherboards or be switching from an older Intel platform and want a newer and more efficient architecture that provides the most gaming performance.
Can you maybe explain to us the tangible, real-world benefits of a 100mhz base clock increase and 1 single 8-core CCX?Looks like I will have no trouble getting my hands on a 5800X since most people are strangely completely uninterested in it.
Does no one see the benefit of a higher base clock?
Does no one see's the benefit of 8 cores on a single CCX?
It's deja vu, no one was interested in my Asus 3080 TUF pre-launch pick either... then the reviews started coming in lol.
imo it's priced too closely to the 5900x to be a worthwhile option.
I'd like to see Userbenchmark try and shill this
First Zen 3 CPU appears, the weakest Zen 3 model and it takes 4th place
They've already adjusted their algorithm, it's now 2% with no additional samples added.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-10700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/4070vs4084
They've already added a blerb to say the 5600X is going to be 10% slower.
there's a difference between the two these days ?
Well yeah you can't by OEM chips from retailers like ocuk like with intel and the warranty is unknown, no box or cooler either.
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Richdog said:
Dude, have I really got to explain this to a 3300X owner?
AMD called the 5900X their best gaming CPU so I doubt the 5800X will beat it.Looks like I will have no trouble getting my hands on a 5800X since most people are strangely completely uninterested in it.
- Does no one see the benefit of a higher base clock?
- Does no one see the benefit of 8 cores on a single CCX?
It's deja vu, no one was interested in my Asus 3080 TUF pre-launch pick either... then the reviews started coming in lol.
The tuf is no different from all the rest of the 3080s in gaming performance terms and runs a bit cooler because it has a higher fan speed.
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i think i missed what you were getting at, i thought you meant differences in testing not packaging and cooler..
I was just putting it out there because he is benching/testing it out as we speak
I wonder what are they going to do now that AMD have higher Single Threaded performance.
Yes, because we are talking about Zen3 architecture, not Zen2. So please, explain the tangible real world benefits of the 5800x having 100mhz higher base clock and 1x CCX vs the 5900.
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Anyone know when the Unify X is showing up in the UK? Might get a 5800x + a 2 dimm board so I can do my own testing vs my 9900k/Apex setup. Same RAM and GPU will be used.
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Its better than a 10900K at 1 core (+4%), 2 core (+5%) and 4 core (+4%)
It also has better memory latency than a 3700X which scores 79.3 Pts vs 86.6 Pts of the 5600X, a difference of 9%, the 10900K is 7% better.
Once the higher clocked 8, 12 and 16 core CPU's arrive at this site they can't keep the Intel CPU's at the top of the charts by weighing the result even 100% to 1 - 4 cores.
I doubt that will stop them tho, they will do something even more blatantly ridiculous to push the AMD CPU's down the performance charts, it will be fun to see what they do, how they react to Zen 3.
It also has better memory latency than a 3700X which scores 79.3 Pts vs 86.6 Pts of the 5600X, a difference of 9%, the 10900K is 7% better.
Once the higher clocked 8, 12 and 16 core CPU's arrive at this site they can't keep the Intel CPU's at the top of the charts by weighing the result even 100% to 1 - 4 cores.
I doubt that will stop them tho, they will do something even more blatantly ridiculous to push the AMD CPU's down the performance charts, it will be fun to see what they do, how they react to Zen 3.
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