Isn't rocket lake meant to increase IPC by 10% probably enough to equal or pass in gaming again
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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Isn't rocket lake meant to increase IPC by 10% probably enough to equal or pass in gaming again
I had a 5900X in my basket at a competitors site as I refuse to pay the Gibbo needs a new supercar OCUK tax. Even had paypal ready to go and hit checkout but the site locked out and took until 14:12 to refresh and they then it was marked as pre-order for the 20th Nov. Though to be fair I didn't mind as I am in no rush and can mull over cancelling if I come to my senses.
Sorry for quoting myself but I got an order payment confirmation email at 21:25 and my CPU is estimated for delivery on the 10th Nov. This will be purely down the fact it is 2 day DPD to N. Ireland. I placed my order at 14:12.
interesting tweet by Hardware unboxed https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1324466147207516161/photo/1
Explains why some of the reviewers are experiecing different results.
Explains why some of the reviewers are experiecing different results.
20%.
Skylake:
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-intel_core_i7_9700-911
Willow Cove:
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-intel_core_i7_1165g7-1613
But Rocket Lake is supposed to be with Cypress Cove cores, I don't know the difference between Willow and Cypress Cove cores.
If they can get the high frequency working, but the loss of cores compared to the AMD equivalents will probably bring them to parity at best, while still having a deficit on core counts. And then Zen 4 will arrive on 5 nm.
They will have ramped it right down long ago, probably when they released the XT refresh. What you can see is almost entirely stock from previous production runs, not newly produced silicon. Even if the date on the cpu box is last week that only means it was packaged then, the dies are stored until they need them.
We already have lots of info about Rocket Lake - like its limited to 8 cores for starters. It has had an IPC uplift compared to 10th gen but is down on single core compared to Ryzen 5000. Its going to be lower clock speed at stock than the outgoing 10900k so some of its IPC advantage will be lost to reduced clocks. Also its still 14nm (backported from the 10nm design) so will be a high power draw part. I expect it to equal the 10900k in multicore and beat it by around 10% in single core just based on the maths. What we don't know is price and overclocking potential of the cores, cache or memory controller for retail samples. Intel can afford to make this a loss leader because they get to sell a new chipset with each new generation and they have billions in the bank so the top end RKL could well be cheaper than the 10900k, maybe less than 10700k price given AMD's competitiveness now. The core overclocking potential we can guess is not as good as the 10th gen as its base clock is lower, the cache and memory speed we have no clue about yet but given the IPC uplift its not going to be better enough to blow anyone away.
These are actually out in the wild and available to buy as ES chips if you pay entry to the right discord channels. They're not final validation samples (same stepping as QS chips) yet, but not far off. Its actually easier to buy an RKL ES than it is to buy a board to run it on though, so getting a chip in hand is much less than half the battle. The ouch pricing of the more recent ES steppings doesn't seem quite so ouch either when buy it now auctions for a 5800x are reaching £600
Like I said though, good luck getting a board.
It's good for consumers if rocket lake does beat Zen 3 in games as AMD will likely respond with price cuts atleast to the 6 and 8 core assuming Intel doesn't follow AMDs pricing and go even higher than what AMD are currently asking for 6 and 8 cores.
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AMD might be holding onto binned chips and launch an XT line if RL takes the gaming crown, which will surely be only by a few small %.
100-150mhz higher, wont do a lot but if it means they stay at the top of the tables it might be worth it.
100-150mhz higher, wont do a lot but if it means they stay at the top of the tables it might be worth it.
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Honestly doesnt matter much anymore, you know which ever brand you buy you will get a solid gaming CPU. Also looks like the same for GPU's. Good times. 
Rocket Lake sucks in multi and heavy loads, it´s like only 5% better than 10gen, probably not even better than zen 2!! The aprochs it is obvious.. trying to take back gaming performance by force... you have 4 powerful cores, 4 small cores... They are trying to optimize single threaded workloads at max... sacrificing the rest. In the future i bet even in games... those small cores will have a negative impact... when games are fully optimize for 8 and 10 cores. It´s good for the currunt "meta", thats all.
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Rocket Lake will be DOA. More power hungry than Comet Lake, 2 fewer cores, rumoured clock speed regression, multithreaded performance already beaten by Zen 2, probably single core performance parity with Zen 3.
Z490 just needs a BIOS update to run Rocket Lake. If you can get hold of QS samples I'm sure there's some custom BIOS floating around too.
They will sell just because of the gaming "thing". Otherwise it is insane how Intel goes from 10 cores to 8 cores... This is not working towars progression. They are making a lot of compromises just to attack gaming performance.. thats all. The rest they don´t care...
Offering more cores??! they don´t care. It´s sad.
Intel have lost their long held gaming crown and they can't stand it, they can't match AMD for Multi-Threaded performance, they don't have the scalability for it, so they latched on to gaming, because its all they
Sadly not with an ES...same socket, new chipset dude. I've nothing I can link more solid than that without getting kicked out of discord
. The first ES chips ran on z490, 2nd and 3rd do not. This may not be the case for retail, but the ES chips are a no go. Not worth buying the very early ES's, no pcie4, very limited clock speed, weird cache bug. No QS are out yet but should be by December.intel has given up on multi thread performance - they won't announce it but the internal road maps show that Intel has absolutely no plans to introduce a replacement for the 10xe CPUs until 2022. It gives the AMD absolute free reign to do whatever they want in the workstation market
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