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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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Journey said:
I know they've had it easy. Then again, we voluntarily put delta fans in PC's, so small whiny fans were out gunned buy much larger, much whinier fans. :D
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Bring back the nForce ultra chipset and that god aweful nForce NF200 bridge chip. Super hot and difficult to cool.
 
Steampunk said:
It's an issue for some people. Usually the people who remember having them on chipsets or even CPUs. They are **** and are a step backwards, especially if you want to buy a good motherboard and keep it for some time. It's like spending big money on a high performance sports car, and finding it comes with drum brakes all round. It's a fly in your soup, a long hair in your burger, a nasty stain on your hotel bed linen. The sooner they are gone, the better.
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I understand , years ago I had board with a chipset fan it started making all sorts of annoying sound I got replacement sent , I see the board you have its double fan

It does feel like going backwards all I'm hoping because it's rpm controlled it will only spin depending on load or temps so hopefully doesn't spin that much
 
uscool said:
I understand , years ago I had board with a chipset fan it started making all sorts of annoying sound I got replacement sent , I see the board you have its double fan

It does feel like going backwards all I'm hoping because it's rpm controlled it will only spin depending on load or temps so hopefully doesn't spin that much
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When you consider the performance AMD has brought to the desktop I think it’s a massive jump forward. I can build a desktop system that would hammer most DC rack systems costing £50K or more.
 
LePhuronn said:
Fixed it for you :p

Drop multiple thousands on a watercooled Threadripper setup, yet £20 for a chipset block is cost prohibitive? It would be an utter pig to install and an utter pig to look at.
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I couldn’t find anything I liked the look of or that looked like it would fit. I thought I’d be stuck with having to buy a board with it implemented but I couldn’t find one for the TR platform.
 
ChrisD. said:
I couldn’t find anything I liked the look of or that looked like it would fit. I thought I’d be stuck with having to buy a board with it implemented but I couldn’t find one for the TR platform.
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Universal chipset blocks are useful. My go to blocks are a coolance and swiftech MCW30
 
Are people not aware that pretty much every single graphics card comes with a fan. Why is it only a bad thing if a motherboard uses one.
 
Doobedoo said:
Are people not aware that pretty much every single graphics card comes with a fan. Why is it only a bad thing if a motherboard uses one.
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Because we also have boards that don't have chipset fans ... And smaller fans tend to fail more

Years ago I had board with chipset fan and it failed ever since I had boards without fans so in some ways it feels like going backwards
 
uscool said:
Because we also have boards that don't have chipset fans ... And smaller fans tend to fail more

Years ago I had board with chipset fan and it failed ever since I had boards without fans so in some ways it feels like going backwards
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We have graphics that don’t use fans and/or have tiny fans.
 
uscool said:
Because we also have boards that don't have chipset fans ... And smaller fans tend to fail more

Years ago I had board with chipset fan and it failed ever since I had boards without fans so in some ways it feels like going backwards
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A lot of people will upgrade before the fan will fail. Fans nowadays will only run when needed and only run as fast as needed.

It’s not that much of a big deal to be honest.
 
Doobedoo said:
A lot of people will upgrade before the fan will fail. Fans nowadays will only run when needed and only run as fast as needed.

It’s not that much of a big deal to be honest.
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Yeah that's why I ain't put off with them now being rpm controlled and only spin on demand
 
Doobedoo said:
Are people not aware that pretty much every single graphics card comes with a fan. Why is it only a bad thing if a motherboard uses one.
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Motherboards didn't have fans for two decades. Then in the early 2000s when frontside bus speeds got to 133MHz and beyond, the motherboard fan became common place. After 12 months of use, it vibrated and rattled like crazy. Later motherboards ran much cooler and didn't need fans.

Now, it feels like motherboards have gone back to this awful retro look with the dreaded fan.

Imagine if graphics cards stopped having fans for 15 years. Then all of a sudden, Nvidia released a graphics card with a fan. People would laugh at the backwards step.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Motherboards didn't have fans for two decades. Then in the early 2000s when frontside bus speeds got to 133MHz and beyond, the motherboard fan became common place. After 12 months of use, it vibrated and rattled like crazy. Later motherboards ran much cooler and didn't need fans.

Now, it feels like motherboards have gone back to this awful retro look with the dreaded fan.

Imagine if graphics cards stopped having fans for 15 years. Then all of a sudden, Nvidia released a graphics card with a fan. People would laugh at the backwards step.
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Graphics have just increased the number of fans over the years. One of the rtx3080’s has 4.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Motherboards didn't have fans for two decades. Then in the early 2000s when frontside bus speeds got to 133MHz and beyond, the motherboard fan became common place. After 12 months of use, it vibrated and rattled like crazy. Later motherboards ran much cooler and didn't need fans.

Now, it feels like motherboards have gone back to this awful retro look with the dreaded fan.

Imagine if graphics cards stopped having fans for 15 years. Then all of a sudden, Nvidia released a graphics card with a fan. People would laugh at the backwards step.
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A backwards step it maybe, cobbled together quite possibly. A big deal... Not really.
 
jigger said:
The size of the fan isn’t a measure of its quality. All the MaxQ cards will use a tiny fan. I’ve got a passive GTX950 can’t remember the make.
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Quality is one thing, size is another and the smaller the fan, the less air it'll move and/or more noise it'll make while doing so.

Either way, I didn't go to the trouble of getting quiet case, CPU and GPU fans just to have no control over the chipset fan so I think I'll just get a decent B550 board, pocket the savings over an X570 and swap it out if/when something better comes along.
 
Doobedoo said:
A backwards step it maybe, cobbled together quite possibly. A big deal... Not really.
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Exactly. Let's face it, load's on here have B Die ram running at over 4.5v Anyone that does should have active cooling on the ram..........................that active cooling will be at least twice as loud as any X570 chipset fan, assuming the chipset fan was running in the first place.
 
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