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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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kitfit1 said:
Exactly. Let's face it, load's on here have B Die ram running at over 4.5v Anyone that does should have active cooling on the ram..........................that active cooling will be at least twice as loud as any X570 chipset fan, assuming the chipset fan was running in the first place.
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I don’t know. I own a x570 and for me it’s not a problem and has never been a problem. I have a custom loop with plenty of addition airflow and have yet to hear the fan. If it does break which it could do, I’ll just slap a water block on it.

People are entitled to buy what they want and think what they want but as it stands the x570 is the top of the stack for Zen 2 and the upcoming zen 3.
 
Journey said:
Strong enough to blow components off your board :D
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Nothing like losing a cap on that prestine Voodoo 4500 card :D

kitfit1 said:
Lol..............proper fans. Still got 4 of them for benching...............they just blow any moisture away instantly :D
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They really serve some proper functions alright. Good way to keep the cats out the room, and cool dual Fermi cards :p


As for a 5900X I hope AMD actually has stock this launch! Want to replace my 5820K system
 
Doobedoo said:
I don’t know. I own a x570 and for me it’s not a problem and has never been a problem. I have a custom loop with plenty of addition airflow and have yet to hear the fan. If it does break which it could do, I’ll just slap a water block on it.

People are entitled to buy what they want and think what they want but as it stands the x570 is the top of the stack for Zen 2 and the upcoming zen 3.
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Yes mine runs at 59°C after a few hours gaming set to silent mode in the BIOS. No idea if the fan is running, can't hear it :)
 
Toasty said:
I remember those days massive all copper heatsink with a silly Delta cooling it.
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Yeah I really don't want to see that in my case for this next build.

Are AIO CPU coolers a) effective and b) easy enough to install?

I have no intention of doing a full loop. Too much like real work ;)
 
Still got an original delta fan in working condition. Sometimes I hook it up to remind myself what Concorde used to sound like :)
 
Journey said:
They'll probably highlight the fact you can run it in Game Mode with one whole CCD disabled, and the other core boosts to much higher clocks as it is better binned to make up the short fall, maybe even 5GHz. ;)
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Well if they don't even mention it then I'll take it that the 8 core will be better for games / latency stuff.

I mean I guess they would have to mention something if the 8 core outpaces the 12+ core in their own game testing, either that or just market the 8 core as the gaming chip.
 
FoxEye said:
Yeah I really don't want to see that in my case for this next build.

Are AIO CPU coolers a) effective and b) easy enough to install?

I have no intention of doing a full loop. Too much like real work ;)
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Yes very effective, under heavy load with fans setup for quiet operation I can keep my 3900X under 70c under load. Also very easy to install, check YouTube for some mounting video's. If I was purchasing one now I think I would go for the Artic Liquid Freezer 2, when I do eventually switch to the 5900X I may well switch the cooler to see if I can shave a few degrees off my temps.
 
@FoxEye
@AStaley

There are advantages and disadvantages.

They look much better in my opinion.

You do need to consider though:
- They are more expensive.
- More to go wrong without obviously signs it has, your pump could fail you wouldn't even know
- unlikely, but there is a chance of catastrophic failure involving water all over your PC
- they don't perform as well as an air cooler in terms of raw cooling performance.
- ideally should be mounted in a correct orientation to avoid air around the pump (Google this)

That being said, I've just bought one myself because it fits much better for aesthetics of my new case, and doubles up as an exhaust. NZXT comes with a 6 year warranty and you can set the RGB (not that I'm in to that) but as it comes with it you can set a custom colour scale that is based off the CPU temp, which is very handy.
 
Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Uh.... are you sure about that? Using liquid to pumping the heat away to a huge radiator sure seems like to would have a decent amount of "raw cooling performance"
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Just go look at benchmarks. Air coolers like the Noctua NH-D15 are in practical terms as good as (in the same performance range) many of the top AIO's, without the potentially PC-damaging downsides.


AIO's are mostly unnecessary unless you have a specific reason for needing them, imo.
 
I know it kinda goes against logic, water = much better conductor of heat, but it's also about surface area. Air coolers have huge surface area, infact tests showed that after a point, how much air is being pushed through the cooler becomes irrelevant, as only so much heat can exchange and that is based off surface area.

Similar applies to AIO coolers, of course a custom water loop is a different ball game all together. Although oddly some of the benchmarks I've seen some of the 240/280mm rad AIOs outperformed the same brands 360mm equivalent, so no idea on that.......
 
2 days to go and not much is leaked.
seems security is tighter than ever.
good

I used custom water and air, I go with air as atm I use aircooling.
Just makes more sense today than aio or custom water
 
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