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DDR5 pricing is looking good for Q3, increasing supply along with weak demand in the PC market space(s) is meaning that the predicted 5-8% QoQ decrease could see as much as a 12% decrease in Q2-Q3. This look to be holding somewhat true in the street pricing of DDR5 modules, with prices dropping to a new low over the month of April and the trend continuing into May. Forecasting for DDR4 is showing a decrease in stock piling, with an increased focus on raising margins as manufacturers finally move away from DDR3 for devices like routers, and embedded applications.
Prices for DDR5 are predicted to be only 30% higher than DDR4 by the start of Q4, which for the consumer means that the 32GB (2x 16GB) DDR5 5200 at £180 will only be £140 or less, and the faster RAM speeds being priced more in line with a premium DDR4 kit so a 2x16GB DDR4-4000 kit which is £180 now, the DDR5 6000+ equivalent will be ~£235.
Looking good for Zen4 release.
Wouldn't have made much/any difference even if it was AFAIK, wasn't it Igor's lab, or whoever, tested what higher clocks would have done and it was next to nothing? Something about limitations of the chip/architecture.I hope this whole sandbagging lark is not the new Zen 2 is totally going to be 5ghz guys.
I'm not sure it ever would live up to the hype. It's the first product on a new socket and moving to new memory. It was never going to be completely revolutionary - a small bump in performance whilst moving to a new platform is normally all that's expected.Anyway it looks so far like Zen 4 isn't going to live up to the hype rubbish MLID posted.
Replying to myself, seems that the market predictions are starting to show in retail channels as well now, 32GB DDR5 starting from circa £150, so £50 more than an entry level DDR4 32GB kit. Trending downwards very quickly it seems, and with the higher speeds coming, the 6000MHz+ parts will also become way more affordable by the time Zen4 is due in the shops.
well, "easily"... more like potentiallyThe 5600 will easily do 6600-7000MT/s C36
The IO die (chiplet) is brand new on 6nm down from 12nm. AMD haven't given very much away on that, but with the struggles Intel are having with 4 dimms who knows.Do you reckon it's safe to assume that Zen 4 will be able to run DDR5 RAM at 5200mhz, with the infinity fabric operating at 1:1?
Apparently, AMD confirmed that a synced 1:1 infinity fabric is possible here:
AMD's Robert Hallock & Frank Azor Talk AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs & AM5 Platform Features: 170W Socket Power Limits, 5.5 GHz Stock Clock Speeds, Smart Access Storage & More
AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs & AM5 platform features have been detailed by Robert Hallock and Frank Azor during the PCWorld 'The Full Nerd' show.wccftech.com
I suspect that any DDR5 frequencies above this will be counted as overclocking, and the infinity fabric will be decoupled.
The IO die (chiplet) is brand new on 6nm down from 12nm. AMD haven't given very much away on that, but with the struggles Intel are having with 4 dimms who knows.
25 years in I'm quite aware.They don't have issues with 4 DIMMS - Run the cpu/memory at spec and it works. Anything beyond that isn't guaranteed. Same goes for my R7 1700 which is only supported up to 2666 for 2 dimms and 2133 for 4 dimms. Anything above that is overclocking. Alder lake only supports up to DDR5-4800 on 2 dimms, 4400 on 4 dimms.
They don't have issues with 4 DIMMS - Run the cpu/memory at spec and it works. Anything beyond that isn't guaranteed. Same goes for my R7 1700 which is only supported up to 2666 for 2 dimms and 2133 for 4 dimms. Anything above that is overclocking. Alder lake only supports up to DDR5-4800 on 2 dimms, 4400 on 4 dimms.
I doubt it if AMD are giving out a generic 35% MT performance across the lineup.Hopefully the 7700 and 7600 are 65w chips