*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

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AMD may be skipping the Ryzen 6000 and going straight to Ryzen 7000 early 2022.

The question is what it would be launched then.

AMD Ryzen 7000 CPU Powered HP All-In-One Desktop PCs Confirmed, Launching in 2022 (wccftech.com)

 

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Maybe AMD only wants to coordinate its new Ryzen and Radeon lines. Both to be 7000 series.

 

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This is icorect and probably human error. Look at the SSD spec, they call it a SSE. Just HP being shoddy

One typo where an "e" should be a "d"?

 

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AMD Zen 4D 'Zen 4 Dense' CPU Architecture & Chiplet Design Detailed, Will Tackle Intel's Hybrid Approach (wccftech.com)

AMD Zen 4D ‘Dense’ Core For Next-Gen Ryzen & EPYC CPUs Detailed: Up To 16 Cores Per Chiplet, New Cache Design & Tackles Intel’s Hybrid Approach

 

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So, Zen 4 desktop will have at least a 16-core variant, with two chiplets?
Ryzen 6000 is late, Ryzen 5000 were launched in the end of 2020.

AMD EPYC Zen4 “Genoa” 16-core processor with 3.7 GHz boost and DDR5/PCIe Gen5 support spotted
This 16-core AMD EPYC Zen4 "Genoa" processor leak comes with an X-ray - VideoCardz.com

 

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Why is it late ?

Don't we need a 12-month release cadence, not 24-month as it will be?

 

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Did they state it would be out in 12 months or with a date ?

Don't worry, they will feel it on their quarterly financial reports

 

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I thought Zen 4 was always scheduled for H2 2022? So November / December this year.

2021 yes, 2022 no.

"One thing that’s certain is that the Zen 4 CPUs will release sometime in 2022. The question is, when? Tomsguide suggests the Zen 4 CPUs could launch as early as Q1 2022, although that wouldn’t leave a lot of breathing room between the release of the refreshed Zen 3 CPUs."
Everything we know about AMD's Zen 4: Release date, specs, price, and more (dotesports.com)

Since Zen 3 is poor lineup and there is no Zen 3 refresh altogether, this delay to Q4 2022 could mean only one thing - push backs caused by problems with the new manufacturing node.

 

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Yeah they are getting Zen 4 and Zen 3D mixed-up.

Zen 3D was "going in to mass production in December 2021" later she clarified "release Q1 2022" So March.

Zen 4 was always "Late 2022" at CES that was reaffirmed by saying "Second Half 2022"

I think things got badly messed by the AMD management.
Zen 3 3D is a needless adventure.
Another hint for bad decisions - the release of the Radeon RX 6500 XT as a desktop graphics card.

They could have just left the 3D upgrade to go with the Zen 4 lineup, and not hurry to make middle steps in-between, like bridges to fill the gap between Zen 3 and Zen 4.

Zen 3 also lacks more models in the lineup - it simply leaves too much room to Intel to catch up and gain the lost DIY market share..

 

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Zen 3D (in Ryzen form) are just salvaged Milan-X CCD's, IE ones that didn't make the very high silicon grade requirements for Milan-X, that's really all mainstream and HEDT CPU's are.

Not quite good enough to put in a data-centre? flog them to gamers.

I see, that is a fifth model in the Ryzen 5000 lineup, starting with Ryzen 5 5600X (65W), then 5800X, 5900X and 5950X (all of which 105W).

So, there are no (new) Ryzen 3, there are also no (new) XT versions of all the rest.

 

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RDNA2 desktop APUs should offer something close to RX 580 performance with a bit of luck, enough for 1080p ultra on older games and playable with setting compromises on newer ones.

The APUs are always memory throughput starved, so highly unlikely the performance will get that high.

 

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Im pretty sure it won't release so early, and im sure IPC increase will be higher, AMD already showed they can increase 19% on the same node, so 25%+ IPC is realistic, but we will see in april, both of those rumors are either true or false.

So early??
They are already late. Zen 3 was launched in 2020..