AMD Zen 5 rumours

[Grim5]

Doubling down paying off:

I noticed he is now also view botting, I wonder when he started doing that sneaky ****

If you visit his website, it has his latest YouTube video embedded and automatically starts playing, meaning that random clicks to his website and Google traffic bots visiting that site will automatically trigger his YouTube video view counts to go up

 

[humbug]

MLID new Zen5 leak!!!

Oh wait... it's based off fake slides that someone on Reddit specifically made to prove that MLID will repost fake bait

https://twitter.com/x/status/1776085853804413035

Ignoring the lol blunders.

He thinks Zen 5 IPC up lift in the low teens, AMD have problem and so on... and yet his conclusion is its still "exciting" an IPC gain lower than that from Zen 2 to Zen 3, and the only reason you would be disappointed about that is because you listened to 'other' leaks, not that its a pretty "meh" up tick by AMD's own recent standards, its because you didn't listen to him.

In other news, according to him, Intel will get a massive IPC upgrade, and AMD should be worried, but Zen 5 is still exciting, right?

There has been a pattern over the years with this guy, he underestimates AMD, every time, and overestimates Intel, every time, people, probably these companies themselves.... are playing games with him.
AMD's mindset is they don't like anyone knowing what they are doing, they think its a bad idea for your competition to know the accurate performance and architectural details of your future products, they are right, because then the competition can plan for it in advance, if there is such a thing as leaks then its in AMD's interests to feed the rumour milling with sandbags.
So its interesting that he underestimates AMD every time.

Intel on the other hard are different, Like a crumbling old empire trying not to look increasingly irrelevant on the world stage they are very bombastic and like to shout about what they are doing in 10 years time and that is going to change the world... because we are the best, don't look over there, look here, we are the industry leaders, believe me, look at all these big numbers and words we have.
That bluster rarely pans out but it keep's people like Tom here in a perpetual up > down > up > down > up > down cycle like a fool.

 

[Grim5]

Speaking of Intel, Bernstein investment firm put out some interesting analysis today and at the end said there is no reason for investors to buy Intel shares until 2030 lol

 

[humbug]

Speaking of Intel, Bernstein investment firm put out some interesting analysis today and at the end said there is no reason for investors to buy Intel shares until 2030 lol

Means nothing. An investment firm says don't buy Intel, maybe they do know something but don't want the stock price to go up, yet.

An investment firm does not care about your investments, it only cares about its own, it is not going to work against its self interests...

 

[Noxia]

almost 100% it will be announced there
actual release would be later. Think AMD was partial to 07.07 date before

That would be good. Good excuse to get myself a birthday present for the 10th

 

[Freddie1980]

I bet Paul from RedgamingTech is nervously watching this drama to see how this plays out.

 

[Grim5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1777009477587177822

 

[Noxia]

So is the only expected gain on the new chips to be slightly higher core speeds?
Like what would the incentive be to upgrade from a 7800x3d to the 8800

 

[jigger]

So is the only expected gain on the new chips to be slightly higher core speeds?
Like what would the incentive be to upgrade from a 7800x3d to the 8800

Who knows. A few hints of what might have been changed and some potential low hanging gains, so it’s unlikely it’s just higher clock speed.

 

[humbug]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1777009477587177822

https://twitter.com/x/status/1777014784661078254

"Not tested, no main board"

Its an AM5 CPU and it has thermal paste on it.

 

[Noxia]

Who knows. A few hints of what might have been changed and some potential low hanging gains, so it’s unlikely it’s just higher clock speed.

I'm not expecting anything significant tbh. Just like the cycle and I'm not interested in Intel with their e-core crap.

 

[PeegeeTips]

i note with some skepticism recent rumour suggesting the mainstream version of strix (8c/16t) codenamed kracken is listed as 4x Zen5 + 4x Zen5c.

as a cheap product, designed for low TDP, wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper for this product to simply use a single 8x Zen5c ccd?

 

[Nutty667]

So is the only expected gain on the new chips to be slightly higher core speeds?
Like what would the incentive be to upgrade from a 7800x3d to the 8800

I thought they said slightly slower clock speeds, but IPC uplift to be somewhere between 10 and 30%.

 

[Dg834man]

I thought they said slightly slower clock speeds, but IPC uplift to be somewhere between 10 and 30%.

That was the initial murmurs they now say slightly increased clock speeds ipc increase up to 40% (take with a massive bag of salt), even if its half as good as this still be a decent jump.

 

[Nutty667]

It's not gonna be 40%. 20% with a slight clock bump is still gonna produce a significant performance upgrade.

 

[alec]

It's not gonna be 40%. 20% with a slight clock bump is still gonna produce a significant performance upgrade.

in certain workloads I can see 40% easily
all the improvements we know about will benefit calculation heavy workloads

how it will affect the average IPC and gaming performance remains to be seen
20% from ipc+clock in games would already be good, brings the 8-core "9700X" firmly above 7800X3D

 

[Grim5]

Means nothing. An investment firm says don't buy Intel, maybe they do know something but don't want the stock price to go up, yet.

An investment firm does not care about your investments, it only cares about its own, it is not going to work against its self interests...

Intel shares similar sentiments; latest statement from Intels CEO is that they forecast Intel will not break even again until at least 2027, from now until then Intel will keep making a loss and that's not an analysts words, it's straight from Intels CEO

 

[humbug]

Intel shares similar sentiments; latest statement from Intels CEO is that they forecast Intel will not break even again until at least 2027, from now until then Intel will keep making a loss and that's not an analysts words, it's straight from Intels CEO

Yeah i saw that... this is the tangible evidence you should be waiting for, rather than listen to some investment firm, they have their own agenda.

 

[FredFlint]

I think it will be 10-15% IPC with some new AI instructions and maybe an NPU. Hopefully some more cores, my 7950X is getting battered running path tracer code.

 

[LtMatt]

I think it will be 10-15% IPC with some new AI instructions and maybe an NPU. Hopefully some more cores, my 7950X is getting battered running path tracer code.

What app is that?