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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

will be interesting to see a true 8 core chip up against a 4+4HT chip as well on DX12, not that i think its going to make much difference but you never know.

Anyhow, looks like im sticking with my 4770k until Zen and then its back to AMD for me if the Zen is anywhere near the Haswells performance

At the moment it looks like this.

DX12 Draw Calls.

Score: 22,198,217. 4790k @4.8Ghz

Score: 14,970,812. FX-9590 @ 4.7Ghz


DX11

Score: 1,233,983. 4790k @4.8Ghz

Score: 881,618. FX-9590 @ 4.7Ghz
 
Links not working for me, did anybody save it or got another linky?

Three segments for desktop.

High performance - FX succeeded by CPU with upto 8 Zen core.

APU - SR succeeded by APU with upto 4 Zen cores.

Low power offering with 4 Puma cores - suceeded by new CPU with two Zen cores.

High performance desktop and APU unified by new FM3 platform.
 
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Three segments for desktop.

High performance - FX succeeded by CPU with upto 8 Zen core.

APU - SR succeeded by APU with upto 4 Zen cores.

Low power ARM offering with 4 A57 cores - suceeded by new CPU with two K12 cores.

High performance desktop and APU unified by new FM3 platform.

So the are going all for one doing away with separate APU and CPU platforms.

Makes sense if you have an APU and want to upgrade to something big and fat.
 
DX12 Draw Calls.
Score: 22,198,217. 4790k @4.8Ghz
Score: 14,970,812. FX-9590 @ 4.7Ghz

DX11
Score: 1,233,983. 4790k @4.8Ghz
Score: 881,618. FX-9590 @ 4.7Ghz

The gains are worse for AMD.

LOL, the most pessimistic reading of those numbers.

Seems to me that if Intel presently have an advantage in games with 1.2 vs 0.9 (Munits?), then that advantage will utterly vanish when they're posting 22 vs 15. Mantle might well turn out to be genius for forcing this hand.

(Assuming draw calls is a bottleneck.)
 
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Its not TOO much of a difference really when you consider the overall increase. Only a 6.25% bonus for Intel. When you consider the architecture of piledriver difference, pretty negligible.

And don't forget that a 6.25% performance advantage for Intel will probably translate to at least a 25% price premium for Intel haha.
 
LOL, the most pessimistic reading of those numbers.

Seems to me that if Intel presently have an advantage in games with 1.2 vs 0.9 (Munits?), then that advantage will utterly vanish when they're posting 22 vs 15. Mantle might well turn out to be genius for forcing this hand.

(Assuming draw calls is a bottleneck.)

It wasn't really pessimism, rather a factual observation :p

I'm holding a lot of optimism for Zen.
I'm contemplating not buying into X99, just to wait and see if Zen can deliver me something over my 4770K.
 
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All the learned analysts who have read the leaks seem to think Zen will still be slower than Haswell. You can get your credit card out now. ;)
 
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