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AMD’s New High Performance Processor Cores Coming Sometime in 2015 – Giving Up on Modular Architectu

Some good news! Let's hope they can deliver something competitive. I'm bored of Intel and expensive 5% bumps.
 
Its great news indeed, but I don't think Intel will be sleeping for next two years either.

+1, Having said that AMD can do better than Vishera even today, dropping the modular design and another year or so development they can do even better still.

Personally i very much doubt they can pull off another Athlon XP with Intel also not standing still, but they don't have to beat Intel, the performance just needs to be good, much better than it is today, and then compete on price.
 
Although this is good news, I do wonder at the timing. AMD have just got their APU's into the new consoles, these consoles are expected to have a shelf life of about 10 years and yet 3 years into their life cycle AMD is gong to switch their CPU priorities. So after about 6 or 7 years into the consoles life cycle, just when the developers are really getting the absolute most out of them, PC CPU's that utilize the same architecture are going to be old tech that was given up on rather than just old but still developed tech.

But yes it is good news.
 
Although this is good news, I do wonder at the timing. AMD have just got their APU's into the new consoles, these consoles are expected to have a shelf life of about 10 years and yet 3 years into their life cycle AMD is gong to switch their CPU priorities. So after about 6 or 7 years into the consoles life cycle, just when the developers are really getting the absolute most out of them, PC CPU's that utilize the same architecture are going to be old tech that was given up on rather than just old but still developed tech.

But yes it is good news.

A couple of us had a good long conversation with an AMD guy in Team Speak during BF4.

We talked at length about what we wanted and thought, amongst a lot of things a new Gamers level CPU was one of them, he said they had already been talking about that for a little while, he also agreed with a lot of other things we said and wanted.

I don't know what's actually come of all of that, but he left us with the impression that that he was very interested in what we had to say.

AMD are in much better shape now'a days, i get the distinct impression they trying hard to rebuild the name they once had.
 
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Playstation 5 will have appeared long before 10yrs.

Yes and?

Xbox 360 launch date 22 November 2005, that makes it 9 years old and you can still buy them in most places that sell consoles.

PlayStation 3 launch date 11 November 2006 still buy them as well.

PlayStation 2 Launch date 4th march 2000 Sony stopped manufacturing them on January 4 2013.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see AMD catch Intel off guard (Mainly due to Intels current strategy), but then I'd expect Intel to catch up when they release a follow up (Well, more than catch up. Intel have performance in the wings, it's just priced very high)
 
Considering Intel seems more interested in improving their graphics, this could give AMD a big chance at a massive comeback to the high end CPU market. It does seem to be a waste with AMD's CMT architecture however, but hopefully we'll see another CPU race against Intel again.
 
It will be interesting to see how things develop, as it stands at the moment the GPU is about half the die on one of the currant APU's. Will they have to be smaller to allow room for the new CPU's, similar size, or have more room to be bigger?

Only time will tell.
 
Intel X99 is the upgrade that makes the most sense if you're building this year. On a more than 4 core chipset, DDR4 support, plus future compatibility with Broadwell -E. Even when the new AMD stuff is out in 2016 X99 could very likely still be competitive. Prob get at least 3-4 years at the highest end with X99. Def my next upgrade. Then move back to AMD in the future when things are better on the CPU front.
 
Interesting, but AMD appears to have lost a few years of R&D on a platform they are now discontinuing for mainstream performance CPUs. That's going to hurt.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see AMD catch Intel off guard (Mainly due to Intels current strategy), but then I'd expect Intel to catch up when they release a follow up (Well, more than catch up. Intel have performance in the wings, it's just priced very high)

I'm not sure, I suspect that the case with Intel is that they have a very structured plan all the time for their next few years ahead (they seem like that kind of company). So, with that assumption, it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that they already have prototypes of much more powerful CPUs waiting behind the scenes to be released in X years time while they continue to make sales on their current processors within that X year time gap. Therefore, I'd imagine that if AMD released something which threatened Intel's performance in the CPU space (which I doubt anyway) then Intel would immediately act to bring about an earlier release of the more powerful processors they have prepared.
 
It wouldn't make sense to have near market ready designs waiting in the wings beyond their next arch revision, it would be a waste of R&D, even if they can afford it. I do not think they are particularly flexible being somewhat (willingly) limited to their tick/tock cadence.

Not that a response couldn't be decisive, all they would need to do allocate more die space if they were willing to drop profit margins a bit, which I don't think they would for pure out and out performance gain.
 
It wouldn't make sense to have near market ready designs waiting in the wings beyond their next arch revision, it would be a waste of R&D, even if they can afford it. I do not think they are particularly flexible being somewhat (willingly) limited to their tick/tock cadence.

Maybe not, my post was mostly speculation I admit. However, Intel are a very wealthy company and I'd like to think that they are already working extensively on the CPUs "of tomorrow".
 
I'm not sure, I suspect that the case with Intel is that they have a very structured plan all the time for their next few years ahead (they seem like that kind of company). So, with that assumption, it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that they already have prototypes of much more powerful CPUs waiting behind the scenes to be released in X years time while they continue to make sales on their current processors within that X year time gap. Therefore, I'd imagine that if AMD released something which threatened Intel's performance in the CPU space (which I doubt anyway) then Intel would immediately act to bring about an earlier release of the more powerful processors they have prepared.

While I do agree they're a structured company etc, it's because of that I can't see them rushing something to market.

They'll do what they need to when a reasonable time frame from their prior release arrives.

It's not so much getting "caught out", but I can see them releasing something (Because they've planned for it to come out at X date) and then AMD's chip comes out at Y date, Intel don't want to change their plan instantly, but will adapt for the following year.

That's perhaps because I see Intel as arrogant, for all I know they could plan to launch something better along side AMD's new stuff.
 
If AMD can just do enough to make Intel have to up there game would be a big achievement, depending on how AMD are when it comes to upgrade time then I think I might jump ship and give them some money :)
 
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