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Dis86 said:
Can't tell if you're ignorant, unable to Google or being deliberately obtuse. Possibly a combo. No, it's not just an ice cream, in the same way that gammon isn't just a meat.
It's a racial slur based upon the perception of someone's views used from within ones own race.

As for the second part, yes not all white people are able to have the same complexion. That doesn't stop it being a racial slur. For example referring to black people as fuzzies (not all black people have fuzzy hair) or white people as gweilo (translates as ghost and not all westerners are ghost-white).
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Genuinely hadn't heard the term before, and it's best to hear these things explained from the person using them :)

Seems I am a racist then, carry on me fellow gammon!
 
I've never heard choc-ice.

One of my Asians friends said he was called "Coconut" at uni by some other Asians and I've also heard Romesh Ranganathan say that word a few times.

It means brown on the outside, white on the inside.
 
VincentHanna said:
I've never heard choc-ice.

One of my Asians friends said he was called "Coconut" at uni by some other Asians and I've also heard Romesh Ranganathan say that word a few times.

It means brown on the outside, white on the inside.
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What do you think choc ice refers to?
 
VincentHanna said:
I've never heard choc-ice.

One of my Asians friends said he was called "Coconut" at uni by some other Asians and I've also heard Romesh Ranganathan say that word a few times.

It means brown on the outside, white on the inside.
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Thought I'd heard it somewhere! Still doesn't actually fit the definition of racism, which is against someone who is not your own race. but hey, us gammons gotta gammon!
 
VincentHanna said:
Yes I worked that out when you first said it.

I'm telling you that I've never personally heard it, or heard any of my non-white friends refer to that.

Maybe it's a regional thing, like bacon sarnie/roll/bap etc
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No, it's an offensive thing and thankfully not commonly used. I've only directly heard it in use once when it was directed at a friend of mine for hanging around with me.
 
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Whilst I wouldn’t use the phrase gammon myself, gross offence over its use does seemingly always whiff of extreme pettiness or a desire for ‘tit for tat’ (without any desire to be constructive).

It’s never “I would prefer you didn’t use that phrase.”

It’s always “well, you’re clearly really racist and therefore I’ve undermined your entire suite of arguments and views!! I’m very intelligent.”
 
chroniclard said:
It's evolved into a term for any white rager/brexiter type dreg of society. Need to get with the times.
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No it hasn't. You're just trying to say it's used in that context to avoid having to handle the fact that it's a racist pejorative.
 
Quite pleased to find, from a search, I've almost never directly used either word on the forums.

Like 'boomer', 'gammon' is more mindset than a strictly defined measurable characteristic. That sort of raging at the dying of the light anger from people who feel powerless in a world moving their once-mainstream outlook and values into irrelevance or otherwise dismissed as out of its time.
 
Nitefly said:
Whilst I wouldn’t use the phrase gammon myself, gross offence over its use does seemingly always whiff of extreme pettiness or a desire for ‘tit for tat’ (without any desire to be constructive).

It’s never “I would prefer you didn’t use that phrase.”

It’s always “well, you’re clearly really racist and therefore I’ve undermined your entire suite of arguments and views!! I’m very intelligent.”
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Plus there was this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/threads/gb-news-stay-on-topic.18930726/page-23#post-34875511
 
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