And boomers wonder why millennials are bitter towards them..

To be fair, depending a bit on the area of London involved, buying in a cheaper area unless it is near work could end up costing you a large part of the money saved anyway in commuting costs and/or just not worth it for the stress if you end up sitting for an hour or more on top of your normal commute time in traffic, etc. frequently - which used to happen not uncommonly when I was passing through places like West Wickham regularly :s

Might work for some people buy by no means something that is a possibility for every one.

Looking at the TfL website, moving from zone 2 to zone 5 would cost an extra £100 a month on the tube. So it would have to be quite a significant saving in rent to make it worthwhile. Not to mention living in a cheaper, worse area would up any insurance premiums.
 
I think you're forgetting that buying nowadays involves a massive deposit. The average FTB deposit was £46,187 in 2019.

The average deposit was £46,187 and the average purchase price was £231,455.

A house at the average purchase price could have been bought using a deposit of £11,573 (5%).
 
To be fair, depending a bit on the area of London involved, buying in a cheaper area unless it is near work could end up costing you a large part of the money saved anyway in commuting costs and/or just not worth it for the stress if you end up sitting for an hour or more on top of your normal commute time in traffic, etc. frequently - which used to happen not uncommonly when I was passing through places like West Wickham regularly :s

Might work for some people buy by no means something that is a possibility for every one.

Well yeah, it depends where in London you live etc.. Renting a 2 bed place in West London vs say a 1 bed place in a cheaper location, over a few years, can easily equate to a deposit, especially with two breadwinners.

I think for most people traffic isn't an issue - take the tube or train, also if you're adding an hour to your commute you could well be rather far away from London - there are plenty of relatively affordable areas with only a short train ride into central London
 
The average deposit was £46,187 and the average purchase price was £231,455.

A house at the average purchase price could have been bought using a deposit of £11,573 (5%).

But could someone buying at 5% afford the mortgage repayments?

A house that costs £231K today you'd have to be on what 40K or so to sensibly afford? and at least around here a lot of basic houses like 2 bedroom mid-terrace aren't much below that - probably £178K or so other than in bad areas so anyone that isn't working a fairly reasonable job is looking at tiny flats generally in bad areas unless they can get together with someone else.

Well yeah, it depends where in London you live etc.. Renting a 2 bed place in West London vs say a 1 bed place in a cheaper location, over a few years, can easily equate to a deposit, especially with two breadwinners.

Sadly that is something that has become a big factor these days - things become much more attainable when you have two breadwinners but not everyone is in that situation - far less people even get married these days - dropped by 2/3rds since the days of the "boomers" which is an additional factor.
 
Ah yes, the generation that blames everyone else and expects the world to give them everything for free.
As I am that generation I find that very offensive....
I'm joking I find them bloody annoying too.

Whine: "Oh it is so terrible I cannot afford a house".
Me: "Why have you got a £50 per month phone, the full Sky TV package and a leased car when you work 16h per week on a checkout age 25?"
Whine: "Oh my gosh your (using the wrong use of your/you're of course) so judgmental!"
 
But could someone buying at 5% afford the mortgage repayments?

A house that costs £231K today you'd have to be on what 40K or so to sensibly afford? and at least around here a lot of basic houses like 2 bedroom mid-terrace aren't much below that - probably £178K or so other than in bad areas so anyone that isn't working a fairly reasonable job is looking at tiny flats generally in bad areas unless they can get together with someone else.

Clearly people with 5% deposits can afford the repayments otherwise they'd all have been repossessed or forced to sell up and there'd be a massive mortgage mis-selling scandal.
 
Clearly people with 5% deposits can afford the repayments otherwise they'd all have been repossessed or forced to sell up and there'd be a massive mortgage mis-selling scandal.
My rent is £650 a month. My house is worth £100k at the most. A mortgage would be easily affordable. In fact is could likely overpay by 20-40% by keeping the £650 monthly payment. Or take a much shorter mortgage, potentially 17 or 18 years instead of 25. The monthly payments are rarely the issue. While rent remains so high actually getting in the ladder is next to impossible for many.
 
Clearly people with 5% deposits can afford the repayments otherwise they'd all have been repossessed or forced to sell up and there'd be a massive mortgage mis-selling scandal.

That's pretty much what a lot of new build houses are lol. People are goaded into buying houses they can't actually afford with the 5% deposit and 20% equity loan.
Although 95% LTV isn't guaranteed to always be available on an older property as there's no legislation to require banks offer it is there?
 
That's pretty much what a lot of new build houses are lol. People are goaded into buying houses they can't actually afford with the 5% deposit and 20% equity loan.
Although 95% LTV isn't guaranteed to always be available on an older property as there's no legislation to require banks offer it is there?

What proportion of these 5% deposit/20% equity loan buyers aren'y paying their way?

As far as I know there's no legislation guaranteeing 95% LTV is available to anyone on any property. The equity loan scheme effectively makes you a 75% or less LTV purchaser as far as the lender is concerned.
 
What proportion of these 5% deposit/20% equity loan buyers aren'y paying their way?

As far as I know there's no legislation guaranteeing 95% LTV is available to anyone on any property. The equity loan scheme effectively makes you a 75% or less LTV purchaser as far as the lender is concerned.

I wouldn't be able to say.
However, anecdotally until the legislation on the help to buy equity loan changes, I could put myself into a situation where I could buy a house I can't afford at a 90% LTV.
 
Clearly people with 5% deposits can afford the repayments otherwise they'd all have been repossessed or forced to sell up and there'd be a massive mortgage mis-selling scandal.

Point I was making was that not everyone will be able to afford a house on a 5% deposit that might be able to afford the monthly outgoings with a bigger deposit behind them.
 
Point I was making was that not everyone will be able to afford a house on a 5% deposit that might be able to afford the monthly outgoings with a bigger deposit behind them.

Everyone has different financial circumstances and the LTV isn't a particularly good indicator as to whether or not someone can afford to pay their mortgage.
 
Everyone has different financial circumstances and the LTV isn't a particularly good indicator as to whether or not someone can afford to pay their mortgage.

That is a bit of a tangent to the point I was making.

But ultimately yeah everyone has different circumstances - too many people seem to be posting here assuming everyone else is lives are ultimately very similar to their own.
 
Ah yes, the generation that blames everyone else and expects the world to give them everything for free.
What Boomers? Couldn't agree more. :D

Blame them millennials for everything, and had everything handed to them for free.

Think my Grandad bought his house with a years wages or something. And if he ever needed a job he could pretty much walk into anywhere, ask nicely, and get a job. He said as much himself.

Anyway im going to unfollow this thread I think. Too many clueless people on either side of the fence looking for a fight.

Have fun chaps.
 
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