Android more popular than iPhone in the UK ?

[Pigeon_Killer]

Apple are basically the Marks & Spencers of the phone world. Premium products aimed at the same kind of people every year. They might not loose the loyal customers they currently have but they'll find it increasingly hard to gain new customers while other companies are able to offer more for less and that'll end up with a market share that only goes in one direction.

Considering how much money there is to be made from the budget sector and how much money Apple make from iTunes I find it strange they haven't released a proper cut down model as of yet because they would clean up on brand name alone.

 

[Janesy B]

The cheapest iOS phone you can buy is £469, the cheapest Android phone is £60. Why this is such a hotly contested debate I do not know. I see a lot more iPhones in use than anything when in London so I guess it's fairly regional too.

 

[Energize]

As Mynight pointed out.. I discovered Haxm the other day. I actually use the emulator rather than my phone to develop on now because it's usable.

Guide: http://software.intel.com/en-us/art...-emulator-on-intel-architecture#_Toc358213271

Nice when you're working on an Intel machine, however the emulator is buggy aside from slow, so I don't trust it.

Random error messages that require solving simply in order to start the emulator include, "launcher has stopped working" and "ui has stopped working", both of which repeat in an infinite loop. Never mind actual errors when trying to run applications on it!

It's pretty dire really given that we have full speed, working emulators, for very complex games consoles like the PS2 written by small teams in a completely unofficial capacity. Yet one of the largest technology companies in the world cannot write an emulator for a comparatively simple mobile phone architecture, when they were the ones who created the actual OS in the first place!

If Microsoft offered a free way/easy way of getting into their app market I imagine a lot more devs would take the jump. At the moment its another £25 cost and complete app rework for a slim chance of gaining 50 users.

Google charge £15 for a developer account for Android apps, so it's pretty comparable in price.

The thread title is comparing a brand of phone against an operating system.

That in itself is testament to what Apple have achieved.

It's not that simplistic, all devices running iOS are made by Apple so the terms Apple and iOS are interchangeable in this context.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

When someone can start a thread saying that the Samsung SuperGeneric x has outsold the latest iPhone then maybe you could elevate Android to the same status as iOS but until then saying Android 'dominates' is just meaningless statistics.

For the record I have a Nexus 7 as well as an iPhone / iPad.

Funnily enough this just came through my email feed (for USA) -

iPhone ownership increased from 35 percent in Q4 2012 to 42 percent in Q4 2013. Likewise, Samsung Android phones increased from 22 percent of smartphones owned in Q4 2012 to 26 percent in Q4 2013.

https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/...-owned-in the-u-s-according-to-the-npd-group/

 

[DJMK4]

I never used to like android but after buying the new nexus 7 at Xmas I really like it over the apple iOS, not sure if that's just a tablet thing though, when I had android phones in the past I always found myself liking the iphone more

 

[Pho]

Nice when you're working on an Intel machine, however the emulator is buggy aside from slow, so I don't trust it.

Random error messages that require solving simply in order to start the emulator include, "launcher has stopped working" and "ui has stopped working", both of which repeat in an infinite loop. Never mind actual errors when trying to run applications on it!

I'm not writing anything graphically intense or anything like that but on my work machine (i5 2500) the Haxm emulator is pretty much as fast as a real phone. I haven't had any of those crashing issues you mentioned either yet (the emulator did hang/crash when my app crashed, mind ).

Though, I've only been using it for a few days so maybe time will tell .

 

[Shocky-FM]

When someone can start a thread saying that the Samsung SuperGeneric x has outsold the latest iPhone then maybe you could elevate Android to the same status as iOS but until then saying Android 'dominates' is just meaningless statistics.

Hmm, okay here are some more useless stats.

 

[n111ck]

Agreed - useless and pointless - Samsung make lots of models of landfill.

 

[Tunney]

Considering how much money there is to be made from the budget sector

That is a myth. Look at the profits share over time:

Apple's high-end only strategy is working. Where are the budget manufacturers on that chart?

 

[Energize]

What I want to know is, where are the last two years on that chart?

Well that, and what that chart is actually measuring, because it could be anything going by the title.

 

[Glaucus]

What I want to know is, where are the last two years on that chart?

Well that, and what that chart is actually measuring, because it could be anything going by the title.

Out of date chart is out of date.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23463111

Samsung has become the most profitable mobile phone company in the world, overtaking Apple, a report says.

Samsung's handset division had an estimated operating profit of $5.2bn (£3.4bn) in the second quarter of 2013, according to Strategy Analytics.

Apple's iPhone operating profit was estimated at $4.6bn, with the iPhone range "underperforming

 

[muon]

When someone can start a thread saying that the Samsung SuperGeneric x has outsold the latest iPhone then maybe you could elevate Android to the same status as iOS but until then saying Android 'dominates' is just meaningless statistics.

For the record I have a Nexus 7 as well as an iPhone / iPad.

No one model will outsell the iphone as they all compete against each other. You will never get sales to concentrate on one model as people like variety.

It is Apple's choice to only have 2 models.

Android sales dominate that of ios. That isn't caveated in any way.

 

[muon]

What I want to know is, where are the last two years on that chart?

Well that, and what that chart is actually measuring, because it could be anything going by the title.

Also it will be interesting to see profit per device. Unless you work for Apple or own their shares, why would you cheer the fact they are making profit out of you? If anything you want value for money by paying closer to costs, something you see in the Android market due to intense competition.

Although even Android high end phones are reaching quite high prices these days, usually still less than £550.

 

[Shocky-FM]

That is a myth. Look at the profits share over time:

Apple's high-end only strategy is working. Where are the budget manufacturers on that chart?

Bit outdated, would be interesting to see what it looks like now. But I agree it is a myth.

EDIT: Quick search found this.