Android - Slightly Hyped IMO

[Mekrel]

But an entirely open system is not needed, you can have a closed core system and anything else overlayed ontop. You really haven't responded. It is valid criticism that you and many have taken exception to.

Lets see shall we


It is not hardware faults


Why not, when you don;t respond, with anything meaningful


Where did I say I wanted apple or a complety closed system.
I want apps to work more often than they do, I wnat auto update for android or at least not have to wait years for phone operator to make a dodgy rom.


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Like over clocking deep customisation is very limited, most people would be more than happy with a closed core, that you can throw stuff over the top.

And the rest of your posts are repeats of the above

If this were an iPhone thread and someone kept harping on about something of a similar nature I'd do the same as I've done here. Not that I'd be reading it in the first place, because I already know it's not for me, but were I to...

Also, you'll struggle to find neutral consensus on me being a "fanboy", given I've openly admitted the downfalls of open platforms. I'm aware of them, I don't mind living with them, and they're not as bad as you make out.

Your issue is, you fail to see or choose to ignore the flip side of the coins.

Yes the Android Market is full of crap applications, but seeing as I search for the applications I know I want or scan a QI code means I don't have to trawl through all the "busty gym babes" type applications.

You mention application screening, which obviously has its benefits but you never address the downsides. If you actually knew as much as you proclaim to know, you would be aware that Apple's application screening has two implications:

• Some developers have publicly quit developing for iOS due to how demanding their specifications are.
• Certain applications that are good and safe, still won't make light of day. For example, Firefox will not make a full Firefox application because they're not allowed to fully utilise their tried and tested engine. For example, they have to use Apple's JScript engine which is slow.

The above just isn't applicable to Apple, W7's authorisation process is just as bad. The maker of GVoice, who's a well established software writer has had to wait 3+ weeks to find out his application has been rejected for the most stupid of reasons.

I.e. His application was rejected because when a user listens to a Gvoice mail, the Zune play list pauses. Well, ermm, if someone was going to listen to a voice mail, they're not going to want music playing over it are they?

 

[Tetsujin]

Lets just leave it as it's pointless, you are completely missing the points and iterating stuff I've agreed with on the first few posts of the thread. This is really pointless.

Now this I will agree on

And yes my spelling and grammar is and always will be rubbish.

As long as you understand I'm not having a go about it; I'm sure there's circumstances.

 

[Broken Hope]

But the big one will never be sorted, standard roms which allow standard updates.

If you want standard roms that have quick updates as soon as they are released then get one of the Nexus phones, or other phone running a vanilla version of Android.

Problem solved.

 

[Xee]

I find iPhone 4 iOS much smoother and slicker then any Android phone I have come across so far. I also think think the iPhone is the best looking phone currently on the market. Plus it just has so many more apps, and they also work.

I have 2 friends, one will not buy Apple products, and the other I would have thought would have bought an iPhone - taking into consideration the amount of time he has spent playing on my iPhone 3/3Gs/4 - but he bought an Android.
Now its embarrassing to show them anything new on my phone, as they seem to think they can just go into the Android app store thingy and just get the same apps that I can on an iPhone. Then I have to politely wait a couple of minutes - and normally get one of two answers. Either Android doesn't have that app or it wont install properly/work. As an example one of them has being trying to download and install Angry Birds for about a month - and it still does not work. I keep trying to tell him its really not worth it or a great game.

Most/all people I know who have an Android phone have not got a clue about how to install roms or tweak their phone. So if its buggy or slow - they are stuck with that.

Just my 2p and experience - take it with a pinch of salt.

 

[kona786]

^^^ I have 5 people I know with Android handsets...and none have the problems you've outlined above

 

[reefoid]

I find iPhone 4 iOS much smoother and slicker then any Android phone I have come across so far. I also think think the iPhone is the best looking phone currently on the market. Plus it just has so many more apps, and they also work.

I have 2 friends, one will not buy Apple products, and the other I would have thought would have bought an iPhone - taking into consideration the amount of time he has spent playing on my iPhone 3/3Gs/4 - but he bought an Android.
Now its embarrassing to show them anything new on my phone, as they seem to think they can just go into the Android app store thingy and just get the same apps that I can on an iPhone. Then I have to politely wait a couple of minutes - and normally get one of two answers. Either Android doesn't have that app or it wont install properly/work. As an example one of them has being trying to download and install Angry Birds for about a month - and it still does not work. I keep trying to tell him its really not worth it or a great game.

Most/all people I know who have an Android phone have not got a clue about how to install roms or tweak their phone. So if its buggy or slow - they are stuck with that.

Just my 2p and experience - take it with a pinch of salt.

Not sure what Android phones your mates use, but I haven't had any of the problems you've listed on my Desire.

Angry Birds installs and plays just fine, and its free. I don't think I've ever downloaded an app that doesn't work. Been a few I haven't liked, but I just uninstalled them (getting a refund automatically as well).

And I've yet to come across any stand out apps on the iPhone that don't appear on the Market as well.

You're either trolling, or your mates don't know how to use a phone.

And as for the iPhone being the best looking phone around, that is totally subjective. It is a good looking phone, but I personally don't think its the best.

 

[Tetsujin]

Most/all people I know who have an Android phone have not got a clue about how to install roms or tweak their phone. So if its buggy or slow - they are stuck with that.

Android isn't some form of new type of product where if you buy it and it doesn't work you're expected to fix it yourself - if it's buggy and/or excessively slow out of the box you "take" it "back". Swapping ROMs is for power users who want to eek every last drop of performance/customisation.

 

[bam0]

But an entirely open system is not needed, you can have a closed core system and anything else overlayed ontop. You really haven't responded. It is valid criticism that you and many have taken exception to.

Frankly it's a ridiculous comment, you're criticising the inherent nature of Android, the fact that any manufacturer can take the code and build it to run on any device they care to build. It's like complaining that bread is made from flour, sure it may bother you but it's never going to change so what is there to discuss?

 

[Tetsujin]

Frankly it's a ridiculous comment, you're criticising the inherent nature of Android, the fact that any manufacturer can take the code and build it to run on any device they care to build. It's like complaining that bread is made from flour, sure it may bother you but it's never going to change so what is there to discuss?

You see my frustration.

 

[Xee]

Not sure what Android phones your mates use, but I haven't had any of the problems you've listed on my Desire.

Angry Birds installs and plays just fine, and its free. I don't think I've ever downloaded an app that doesn't work. Been a few I haven't liked, but I just uninstalled them (getting a refund automatically as well).

And I've yet to come across any stand out apps on the iPhone that don't appear on the Market as well.

You're either trolling, or your mates don't know how to use a phone.

And as for the iPhone being the best looking phone around, that is totally subjective. It is a good looking phone, but I personally don't think its the best.

I must have some dopey work mates then lol

 

[zetec452]

I'm pretty impressed with the HTC Magic with android 2.2 I have. It does everything my iphone 3g used to do (yes the 3g is a little older now). I also prefer it to my BB 9700.

The android platform (like other phone software) will get better and better.

 

[osc89er]

I'm pretty impressed with the HTC Magic with android 2.2 I have. It does everything my iphone 3g used to do (yes the 3g is a little older now). I also prefer it to my BB 9700.

The android platform (like other phone software) will get better and better.

Talking about the 3G its a good thing Apple enforce a closed ecosystem so they can force you to cripple your phone with updates...

 

[[TW]Fox]

Or you just can't see the issue.

You've made the issue up. How is allowing custom roms doing anything? Only people who are into things like custom roms can do it, so whats the problem?

I dont have a custom rom on my phone. It isn't rooted. It's totally stock.