Animal rescues full - covid dogs, cost of living, greedy breeders

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BBC News - Carmarthenshire dog rescue centre full as breeders fail to sell - BBC News

Carmarthenshire dog rescue centre full as breeders fail to sell

An animal rescue centre says the number of dogs needing to be rehomed is increasing each month.

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Sad to see. So many dogs taken on during covid and either people getting bored, changes of circumstances or just cost of living giving them up.

Obviously less rehoming.

And breeders trying to cash in as demand falls.


I guess this will lead to more dogs getting put down. Or worse Disposed of.

I have empathy of someone has lost their job and can't afford it through no fault of their own. But breeders and people who've changed their mind? Poor dogs.

 

[GreatAuk]

This is really sad for the dogs . But wtf are breeders doing carrying on breeding if there's no demand at the moment! And leaving ex breeding dogs at the shelter rather than taking responsibility? Total shysters
(I know this will only be a minority, plenty of good breeders out there).

Do feel for people who've ended up just not being able to afford to keep a dog due to cost of living / lost job, that must be awful.

 

[413x]

This is really sad for the dogs . But wtf are breeders doing carrying on breeding if there's no demand at the moment! And leaving ex breeding dogs at the shelter rather than taking responsibility? Total shysters
(I know this will only be a minority, plenty of good breeders out there).

Do feel for people who've ended up just not being able to afford to keep a dog due to cost of living / lost job, that must be awful.

I guess some got caught with their pants down. Like those who bought hand sanitiser to sell late.. Missed out.

Maybe that's the case here. By time they'd produced pups... The dog craze Was over.

I doubt many could keep them. But you'd think you'd be able to sell for at least something if they are pure breed?

 

[labbby]

Not sure it’s just cost of living. I wonder if people that were first time dog owners through covid just didn’t realise what a responsibility it is. Sure it’s getting more and more expensive but a conversation with someone I work with got me thinking about this.

Him and his partner want to get a dog but due to their work the dog would be left alone for 12 hours, I pointed out that isn’t fair but the attitude of he knows best. Maybe dogs are fine being left alone that long but I get nervous around four hours.

 

[throwaway4372]

If you dump an animal you should have to cover the cost of keeping it alive.
If you fail to do so, you can do a ton of community service to earn the animal's keep.

 

[labbby]

Funny story (well it was a lucky story for me) my parents had Briards when I grew up my sister then decided to get a couple when she was older and basically had a litter from them. I ended up looking after the puppies while they were being sold but obviously got attached.

The guy that bought the last puppy was know. To the Briard world, he used to look after some for weeks on end.

He had the puppy for one night before he phoned my sister up saying he couldn’t cope because the puppy had pee’d in the kitchen and eaten one of his girlfriends expensive shoes, she demanded the puppy had to go.

Long story short, I guess you could say, I rescued the Briard I named Bertie and had a fantastic 8 years with him. I even had him mate so I now have Bailey the Briard from him.

A crazy story that was the best thing that happened to me but it just goes to show people really don’t understand what a responsibility it is.

 

[Megahurtz400]

Needs to be some kind of licence to get a dog, even if it's only £20, but some kind of online test for an hour or two really detailing what it's like having a dog, that costs that are involved and the responsibilities expected as a dog owner.

If this even makes a few percent of people thinking of getting a dog really think about what they're getting into it could be a huge improvement!

 

[Street]

A crazy story that was the best thing that happened to me but it just goes to show people really don’t understand what a responsibility it is.

There's a couple that live just down the road from my parents. They're both morbidly obese, lazy gits and had a Border Collie. The poor dog was never exercised and weighed over 35kg which is massive, especially for a female! My healthy Collie is about 18kg. My mum, despite getting on a bit and being much older than the owners, was taking the dog for walks as much as she could as she felt sorry for her and loves dogs, but eventually the dog died due to health problems from being so overweight.

You'd think the owners had learnt their lesson, but no, they went and spent several thousand on a new Collie puppy which is full of energy and reactive and they can't cope. Now they want to rehome her as she's destroying their house.

 

[labbby]

There's a couple that live just down the road from my parents. They're both morbidly obese, lazy gits and had a Border Collie. The poor dog was never exercised and weighed over 35kg which is massive, especially for a female! My healthy Collie is about 18kg. My mum, despite getting on a bit and being much older than the owners, was taking the dog for walks as much as she could as she felt sorry for her and loves dogs, but eventually the dog died due to health problems from being so overweight.

You'd think the owners had learnt their lesson, but no, they went and spent several thousand on a new Collie puppy which is full of energy and reactive and they can't cope. Now they want to rehome her as she's destroying their house.

It’s scary when you think about it, we’ve been out all night driving to rescue briards (we know the community well) one horrible one was the owner was abusive but similar to what you have described it’s from people buying that just can’t manage so it’s normally no exercise and no grooming. Poor things have to get totally shaved because it’s that bad.

I do think there should be licences or some kind of vetting for potential owners.

 

[shifty_uk]

Needs to be some kind of licence to get a dog, even if it's only £20, but some kind of online test for an hour or two really detailing what it's like having a dog, that costs that are involved and the responsibilities expected as a dog owner.

If this even makes a few percent of people thinking of getting a dog really think about what they're getting into it could be a huge improvement!

I’m all for stricter rules and licensing on dog ownership, we live in an age where having a new puppy is a trendy fashion accessory for the Insta likes or a quick companion for the ‘depressed’.

The council estate I grew up in is packed full of unexercised, untrained and naturally wound up dogs as a result. It’s no life for them and should be seen as neglect.

 

[Tykey]

There's a dog breeder (they have about 3 other businesses on the go at the same time) family (we think they are travellers who have bought a permanent home) moved into our street last year. They keep their dogs in the back garden, they bark & howl off and on (mostly on) throughout the day and night.

Thankfully we're a few doors down so can hardly hear it when indoors but it's loud when sitting in the garden which spoil these sunny days relaxing in the garden. The dogs for them to be barking and howling like must be doing it for a reason, they don't sound happy. No one in the street has seen what they're kept in, there's a caravan and horse box in their back garden, not sure if the dogs are in 1 of those.

The neighbour closest to them I know him quite well, he's getting on and not in good health, he told me today he's selling up because he can't handle the noise anymore, says he can't sleep properly.

The RSPCA aren't interested unless there's proof of someone actually harming or mistreating the dogs, the council have suggested to go round there, yeh right, confront a gypsy family, no thanks.

I feel sorry for their immediate neighbours and most of all the dogs. Breeders like them are *********, it's far too easy for anyone to breed dogs for easy cash, I or nobody else has actually seen any of the dogs, they've never been walked afaik. Bring in dog licensing for everyone and extra licensing for dog breeders who have to be vetted before getting a license.

 

[Megahurtz400]

There's a dog breeder (they have about 3 or other businesses on the go at the same time) family (we think they are travellers who have bought a permanent home) moved into our street last year. They keep their dogs in the back garden, they bark & howl off and on (mostly on) throughout the day and night.

Thankfully we're a few doors down so can hardly hear it when indoors but it's loud when sitting in the garden which spoil these sunny days relaxing in the garden. The dogs for them to be barking and howling like must be doing it for a reason, they don't sound happy. No one in the street has seen what they're kept in, there's a caravan and horse box in their back garden, not sure if the dogs are in 1 of those.

The neighbour closest to them I know him quite well, he's getting on and not in good health, he told me today he's selling up because he can't handle the noise anymore, says he can't sleep properly.

The RSPCA aren't interested unless there's proof of someone actually harming or mistreating the dogs, the council have suggested to go round there, yeh right, confront a gypsy family, no thanks.

I feel sorry for their immediate neighbours and most of all the dogs. Breeders like them are *********, it's far too easy for anyone to breed dogs for easy cash, I or nobody else has actually seen any of the dogs, they've never been walked afaik. Bring in dog licensing for everyone and extra licensing for dog breeders who have to be vetted before getting a license.

There should be a serious licence needed for breeding dogs, way above and beyond what I mentioned in my last post.

House visits, tests/exams, a hefty fee and huge fines/prison time for anyone caught illegally breeding dogs, ideas like that. Should hopefully put off the people who see breeding animals solely for profit/quick cash rather than a respectable business with animal welfare at the forefront.

People will say "it will just push it underground" but surely that's what's happening already?

It will also push the price of dogs up for people buying them of course, but who cares when you're dealing with a sentient beings existence and the risk of people who really shouldn't be taking on such a reasonability.

 

[labbby]

There's a dog breeder (they have about 3 other businesses on the go at the same time) family (we think they are travellers who have bought a permanent home) moved into our street last year. They keep their dogs in the back garden, they bark & howl off and on (mostly on) throughout the day and night.

Thankfully we're a few doors down so can hardly hear it when indoors but it's loud when sitting in the garden which spoil these sunny days relaxing in the garden. The dogs for them to be barking and howling like must be doing it for a reason, they don't sound happy. No one in the street has seen what they're kept in, there's a caravan and horse box in their back garden, not sure if the dogs are in 1 of those.

The neighbour closest to them I know him quite well, he's getting on and not in good health, he told me today he's selling up because he can't handle the noise anymore, says he can't sleep properly.

The RSPCA aren't interested unless there's proof of someone actually harming or mistreating the dogs, the council have suggested to go round there, yeh right, confront a gypsy family, no thanks.

I feel sorry for their immediate neighbours and most of all the dogs. Breeders like them are *********, it's far too easy for anyone to breed dogs for easy cash, I or nobody else has actually seen any of the dogs, they've never been walked afaik. Bring in dog licensing for everyone and extra licensing for dog breeders who have to be vetted before getting a license.

This kind of thing makes my blood boil

 

[Blackjack Davy]

If you dump an animal you should have to cover the cost of keeping it alive.
If you fail to do so, you can do a ton of community service to earn the animal's keep.

Catching them is the problem though most abandoned pets end up tied to a post/in a box outside a vets/sanctuary.And if you penalise people they may simply resort to more unpleasant and illegal ways of disposing of them

 

[Dis86]

Spare a cow, eat a pooch?

 

[Mr Badger]

Not sure it’s just cost of living. I wonder if people that were first time dog owners through covid just didn’t realise what a responsibility it is. Sure it’s getting more and more expensive but a conversation with someone I work with got me thinking about this.

Him and his partner want to get a dog but due to their work the dog would be left alone for 12 hours, I pointed out that isn’t fair but the attitude of he knows best. Maybe dogs are fine being left alone that long but I get nervous around four hours.

I'm not saying it's a full excuse, but some people may well have been caught out by the changing attitude of their employer to working from home. For a while a lot of companies seemed to have accepted it as the new normal, then backtracked to wanting employees back in the office.

 

[Minusorange]

Spare a cow, eat a pooch?

It's not a bad idea, now hear me out

This little guy, along with millions like him get macerated daily and turned into food for doggo's like it's a literal genocide on male chicks because the meat industry only wants females, so is it really that terrible to turn unwanted doggo's into food ?

 

[labbby]

It's not a bad idea, now hear me out

This little guy, along with millions like him get macerated daily and turned into food for doggo's like it's a literal genocide on male chicks because the meat industry only wants females, so is it really that terrible to turn unwanted doggo's into food ?

go start a chicken nugget thread about it then..

 

[Werewolf]

There's a couple that live just down the road from my parents. They're both morbidly obese, lazy gits and had a Border Collie. The poor dog was never exercised and weighed over 35kg which is massive, especially for a female! My healthy Collie is about 18kg. My mum, despite getting on a bit and being much older than the owners, was taking the dog for walks as much as she could as she felt sorry for her and loves dogs, but eventually the dog died due to health problems from being so overweight.

You'd think the owners had learnt their lesson, but no, they went and spent several thousand on a new Collie puppy which is full of energy and reactive and they can't cope. Now they want to rehome her as she's destroying their house.

One of the reasons I won't get another dog, despite really missing our old one is I know my fitness level isn't up to looking after a dog properly, especially a young one.
I can barely manage an hour of my great nieces visiting (they're 15 months and about 31 months).

I've never quite understood how people can be irresponsible enough that they'll get pets they know they can't look after properly.

 

[ChroniC]

If you dump an animal you should have to cover the cost of keeping it alive.
If you fail to do so, you can do a ton of community service to earn the animal's keep.

Maybe me being pessimistic or you not seeing the wood through the trees, but if you don't give them any easy option to dump a dog for free, they will do it for free the only other way and you'll have a bunch of dead dogs or a street dog problem.
Up to you if you think either is a reasonable solution.