Most people don't get an automatic rise. This is the first company I've worked for where that is included, although as mentioned above you need to moving up roles or companies to make real progress rather than it being given on a plate.
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We don't especially get annual pay increases set to the metronome.
We get them as our experience builds, high bilability, increased competance in my work, presenting at conferences etc. Should expect a nice payrise this year as I feel I have excelled in the last 12 months or so and am presenting at a conference in about 3 weeks time (yikes!).
We get them as our experience builds, high bilability, increased competance in my work, presenting at conferences etc. Should expect a nice payrise this year as I feel I have excelled in the last 12 months or so and am presenting at a conference in about 3 weeks time (yikes!).
Yes that's all well, but any pay rise less than inflation is a pay cut.
I haven't had a payrise in over 5 years now.
Performance has nothing at all to do with it. If the company doesn't have the money, or cant justify it to investors, you simply aint getting one. No matter how much you cry into your latté.
Performance has nothing at all to do with it. If the company doesn't have the money, or cant justify it to investors, you simply aint getting one. No matter how much you cry into your latté.
Except it isn't.
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Got a 7% rise with annual review back in January, going to be asking for a further circa 20% next week. Was going to do it today but decided not to after a rather heated meeting that my manager was involved in, so decided it probably wasn't the best day to raise the question (nothing heated regarding me in particular, just ongoing projects and communication issues between departments).
Might look like a big figure, but 7% of not much is... not much. That was the maximum allowed by the company at annual review and restricted to a small percentage of the business, so reckon I'm in for a decent chance as I've more than enough evidence and accolade to back it up. Fingers crossed!
Might look like a big figure, but 7% of not much is... not much. That was the maximum allowed by the company at annual review and restricted to a small percentage of the business, so reckon I'm in for a decent chance as I've more than enough evidence and accolade to back it up. Fingers crossed!
Was the 2% a blanket payrise that everybody in the company was given, or were some people given nothing as you given 2%? Thats an important thing to know.
Dont listen to people suggesting that "you should be greatful for anything at all" - no, not really. If everybody in the company is getting 2% and you've just fallen into line with that and you feel you deserve more then you need to build a case as to why you deserve more. Do not put anybody down when you build your case "so so got 2% and shes rubbish" - no, thats not how you do it. Sing your own praises, highlight where you have gone above and beyond, if you've led projects, put in masses of unpaid overtime, improved efficiency - anything you can think of! Also look at what sort of salary you could command should you look at changing jobs - do not use this as a hostile negotiation technique "pay me or I'm going to leave" but say that you're aware of what somebody of your qualifications and experience could command in the market and you feel that your current salary does not match up.
Our standard annual pay rise as been 2% for the last 3 years, in that time I've gotten a 10%, a 5% with a 5% bonus and an 8% with a bonus still to be announced. You have to be confident, you have to be able to justify what you have done, and most importantly you actually have to be worth it.
Dont listen to people suggesting that "you should be greatful for anything at all" - no, not really. If everybody in the company is getting 2% and you've just fallen into line with that and you feel you deserve more then you need to build a case as to why you deserve more. Do not put anybody down when you build your case "so so got 2% and shes rubbish" - no, thats not how you do it. Sing your own praises, highlight where you have gone above and beyond, if you've led projects, put in masses of unpaid overtime, improved efficiency - anything you can think of! Also look at what sort of salary you could command should you look at changing jobs - do not use this as a hostile negotiation technique "pay me or I'm going to leave" but say that you're aware of what somebody of your qualifications and experience could command in the market and you feel that your current salary does not match up.
Our standard annual pay rise as been 2% for the last 3 years, in that time I've gotten a 10%, a 5% with a 5% bonus and an 8% with a bonus still to be announced. You have to be confident, you have to be able to justify what you have done, and most importantly you actually have to be worth it.
On paper no, in reality yes.
If the place you work for increases the price of it's goods & services in line with inflation then they should be increasing the wages along the same path - otherwise it's an effective pay cut.
I mean, if people want to pretend the cost of living ins't rising then cool.
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Why do you say it can't be linked to performance? Was the payrise a blanket application for all members of staff so that this chap also got it despite not having completed his performance review until today? You're still missing out important information in what you're putting down.
Once you had an offer, did you then ask for more money at your current job?
That's kinda how it works:
1. Apply for job for more money
2. Get offered it
3. If old employer doesn't match or better the offer, leave.
The performance review was completed by most people for a set date (which I now see it wasn't) - I thought the idea of a performance review was to review your performance and then presumably get a wage increase / decrease depending on it
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We have annual salary reviews but they dont automatically mean a pay rise. I got 2.4% last year, which was probably 0.5% higher than the norm for my department. 5.5% the previous year which I negotiated when I signed a permanent contract. This year I'm getting 20% but that's because of promotion.
If your salary review reflect your performance, either you haven't performed as well as you think or many people are getting less of an increase than you. Either way your manager will be able to enlighten you.
If your salary review reflect your performance, either you haven't performed as well as you think or many people are getting less of an increase than you. Either way your manager will be able to enlighten you.
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So maybe you've got a payrise and your colleague hasn't got anything because they are only just getting round to completing their review? Maybe they're not all done at the same time so this person has dispensation to complete it later and if all the pay reviews are independent then they will get a rise if appropriate now they've completed it?
Unless you know that they've already had a payrise without this performance review being completed then the information you've presented doesn't rule out a payrise being performance related. You might be right and it's simply lip-service to a proper performance related bonus but I'd be wary of jumping to conclusions on this.
Agreed. It's just a shame that they've increased pension contributions by a little more than the pay rise. Wasn't exactly a moral boost.
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Public sector is just a gravy train, and that's why we drown in a sea of debt. If your salary increases its a rise. Increments and pay rise being kept separate is no doubt because you are in a strong union and deliver a vital 'public service' , which NHS workers in the main are very well remunerated for.. All 1 million of them !
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2% pay rise, then 20% pay cut due to an enforced shift from full time working.
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18% rise here. But I'll be changing jobs so it doesn't count 
Otherwise, currently they're also offering 2% and another 1% in December. Whilst it makes pretty much insignificant difference monthly, it's still a pay rise and I'm not going to snub it. However, I'm just glad I'm moving on to a significant increase.
However I hadn't received any pay review for about 2-3 years with only 1 bonus 3 years ago. So any pay rise is welcomed irrespective of how small. IT does feel a little insulting at times, especially when you achieve some good work and excel at what you do - however, it's just the state of business at the moment. Just roll with the punches - good things come in the end.
Otherwise, currently they're also offering 2% and another 1% in December. Whilst it makes pretty much insignificant difference monthly, it's still a pay rise and I'm not going to snub it. However, I'm just glad I'm moving on to a significant increase.
However I hadn't received any pay review for about 2-3 years with only 1 bonus 3 years ago. So any pay rise is welcomed irrespective of how small. IT does feel a little insulting at times, especially when you achieve some good work and excel at what you do - however, it's just the state of business at the moment. Just roll with the punches - good things come in the end.
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