Another Ebay Scam Avoidance Thread...

I sold a load of stuff on ebay recently having a tidy up and basically had the same issue with loads of zero feedback guys winning the bids. Don't send the parcel - not worth the risk and they wont pay anyway. The filter (in settings) you can apply to bidders only works on people who have had 1-2 warnings about non-payment in the last 6 months and obviously these fake accounts don't last that long anyway.
I eventually just put everything up as Buy it Now and sold through without any issues at all.

I think the same thing happened with the Mr Blobby outfit someone bid 60k on recently! There should be a better filter for bidders but I guess ebay don't want to block new users.
 
jpaul said:
can't you just say damaged as you were preparing to post it , and thus cancel winners transaction if you don't like him.

imei # is no good , if he claims it is scratched/damaged , doesn't function correctly, battery nacked ... and tries to hold you to ransom to refund some money.
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Done this before too
 
I gave up on Ebay after someone bought a DJI drone from me, flew it, crashed it, claimed it was defective, got refunded by Ebay and I lost my money and the drone.
 
add them to blocked.
If you take the phone off sale you still have to pay final value fees based on the last bidder price...so you will end up losing a fair bit of money.
 
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Rilot said:
I gave up on Ebay after someone bought a DJI drone from me, flew it, crashed it, claimed it was defective, got refunded by Ebay and I lost my money and the drone.
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How do you know they crashed it? was there even a chance for you to put your case forward?

I've had my fair share of time wasters but I ususally put a buy it now price and those who 'win' obviously pay for it up front. I've had a number of aution style and buyer never pays up which is annoying.
 
Schizophonic said:
How do you know they crashed it? was there even a chance for you to put your case forward?

I've had my fair share of time wasters but I ususally put a buy it now price and those who 'win' obviously pay for it up front. I've had a number of aution style and buyer never pays up which is annoying.
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Because they sent pictures to me and Ebay of the destroyed drone. I had no opportunity to argue my case. Ebay just refunded the buyer and basically said "case closed" when I argued that crashing a drone doesn't mean that the drone was defective.
 
Rilot said:
Because they sent pictures to me and Ebay of the destroyed drone. I had no opportunity to argue my case. Ebay just refunded the buyer and basically said "case closed" when I argued that crashing a drone doesn't mean that the drone was defective.
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That doesn't make any sense, did ebay think you sent them a crashed drone? It doesn't strike confidence in me if i ever had to go through a dispute.
I've sold a few brand new phones and luckily not had too many problems except where one buyer after 3 weeks of receiving the item says it was not delivered, but checking on the tracking through RM it was delivered... Surprised ebay didn't fall onto the buyers side in that situation.
 
Schizophonic said:
That doesn't make any sense, did ebay think you sent them a crashed drone? It doesn't strike confidence in me if i ever had to go through a dispute.
I've sold a few brand new phones and luckily not had too many problems except where one buyer after 3 weeks of receiving the item says it was not delivered, but checking on the tracking through RM it was delivered... Surprised ebay didn't fall onto the buyers side in that situation.
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You've been here since 2006 so surely you must have spotted the countless eBay threads that have popped up. It is a technology literate persons place of choice for scamming folk, second only to swapping faulty goods with brand new ones and returning them in the same packaging to places like Amazon, Argos etc.
 
Schizophonic said:
That doesn't make any sense, did ebay think you sent them a crashed drone? It doesn't strike confidence in me if i ever had to go through a dispute.
I've sold a few brand new phones and luckily not had too many problems except where one buyer after 3 weeks of receiving the item says it was not delivered, but checking on the tracking through RM it was delivered... Surprised ebay didn't fall onto the buyers side in that situation.
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They claimed that they crashed it because the drone was defective and didn't fly correcly. I got the impression that at no point was I ever dealing with a human being. It was always stock responses of "We have reviewed your case and have no cause to change our original judgement".
I even got the flight logs out of it and sent them to Ebay to prove that the craft flew just fine, right up until they crashed it in to something. "We have reviewed your case and have ........ etc.".
 
eBay is always a risk but I've gone off auction listings and now just do buy it now at a high price and allow offers. That way I can check the buyers feedback before accepting an offer, occasionally people just pay the high price but so far those sales haven't been a problem.
 
Puzzled said:
eBay is always a risk but I've gone off auction listings and now just do buy it now at a high price and allow offers. That way I can check the buyers feedback before accepting an offer, occasionally people just pay the high price but so far those sales haven't been a problem.
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Same.

You can vet the offers. And you know that if anyone does BIN it's 100 percent a scam.

I Never do auctions ever. If you look at previous sales the BIN prices are much more consistent. Auctions can sometimes end significantly under the typical sale price too
 
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413x said:
Same.

You can vet the offers. And you know that if anyone does BIN it's 100 percent a scam.

I Never do auctions ever. If you look at previous sales the BIN prices are much more consistent. Auctions can sometimes end significantly under the typical sale price too
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Same, the last couple of low - mid items I've sold Ive done a buy now price and its those people who fork out the asking cash and generally have 100% long standing positive feedback.
 
Cancel their bid and add them to your blocked buyers list. Turn on all of the buyer requirements as above to make it as strict as possible. I generally don't do auctions and tend to do buy it now, sometimes with best offer turned on but set so the low ball ones get auto declined. Then I set it to require immediate payment so people have to pay in order to actually win the item. i.e. Stops people "buying it" and then not paying for ages or not at all.
If I detect any bidder looks dodge, or during comms seems like they will be problematic, or have bad feedback, or minimal feedback, I just cancel the bid.
 
Thanks all for the feedback.

I changed my settings to stop zero feedbackers bidding but as his bid was already in, it stayed the winner. I decided to list it on FB marketplace on Saturday. Must have had 20 messages from scammers with eastern European accounts wanting to pay with PayID. Was frustrating. Got what looked like a genuine message from a buyer Sunday afternoon saying he lost his phone saurday while dancing at a music festival. Half an hour later he was at my door with cash. Delisted it on eBay straight away.

Good result all round although I think eBay will only charge me a listing fee, I started it at $1 so hopefully that wont be much. I said it had broken, would seem a bit unfair if they charged me the final value amount too.
 
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