Another Germany Attack

doofer said:
Well, except for the facts it has been reported he has previously injured people, yet was freely able to wander around with a machete, in a Country that has very similar values to our own but which is apparently turning a blind eye to 'Immigrant' (*cough* Muslim related ) crimes and indeed giving out very lenient sentences for crimes which actually ARE prosecuted on these perpetrators, then yes, I would say it was quite a big deal for us here and very worthy of being reported on. I'm sorry it does not fit in with your Liberal Agenda and paints people in a bad light, but if there was nothing bad to paint them with....
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That wasn't known to the BBC at the time, and they have updated said information on their article about the incident. That is the problem with tv-based news as you have to fit around the schedule. Anyway, I have no 'liberal agenda'. Nowhere have I excused the acts of extremist Islam or suggest he get a lenient sentence. He should and will get tried and sentenced the same a native would. Because all people are equal under the law.

Yes, he had previous incidents but that could be anything. If he has a history of violent assaults then that is obviously a case of negligence by the police that could have very well save this womans life. But that is not known, so again pointless to speculate. The same goes for his religious background, but something tells me if the police say the attack had no religious motive you would scream conspiracy.

Again, if you think the media is downplaying the fact that he is a Syrian refugee, I ask you what is the relevance of that? Would this thread even get posted if it was a jealous boyfriend killing his ex with a machete, or and he happened to be white? Just curious - because i have my doubts.
 
Zethor said:
So what if there are terrorists among them? There terrorists among the citizens of Nice, shall we nuke the city just in case?

Sending 1m+ million people back to Syria would be death sentence for tens of thousands and a genocidal act. Are you blinded by hatred to the extent that you can't see that? What's wrong with you?
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Show me where I said that.

I'm in favour of deporting any of them who commit *any* criminal offence, and I've said that since the beginning.

Those who can function over here without resorting to criminality are fine in my book. But I still don't think it was a sound move to open the floodgates, so to speak, without having any idea who was entering Europe. Seemed mad at the time, and the consequences have been all too predictable.
 
Efour said:
What your double superlative or his Nuke comment?

Good god! The level of education on these forums is shocking.

Toodle pip ! Haw Haw :p
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It's an acceptable use of a double superlative. There have been stupid things said on this forum. I am noting that out of all of them, this one is the most stupid.
 
FoxEye said:
Show me where I said that.

I'm in favour of deporting any of them who commit *any* criminal offence, and I've said that since the beginning.

Those who can function over here without resorting to criminality are fine in my book. But I still don't think it was a sound move to open the floodgates, so to speak, without having any idea who was entering Europe. Seemed mad at the time, and the consequences have been all too predictable.
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Syria has no capacity to accept deportees.
 
Dis86 said:
To have everyone believe we live in a world where everyone is equal.
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Tell me what makes you special, or your worth more than that of a refugee? Being born in a developed country? Having a family? Your job? Your community status? Income? Education? What? To what superiority would lay claim to?

The concepts of equality before the law and blind justice do not make us identical, they ensure the law is applied proportionately, objectively and without undue discrimination as to people's income, class, creed, origin, religion, affiliation and so on. There's bias, often affecting the least powerful and marginalised in society, but those are the ideals our security, criminal and justice systems are built upon.

They stand between us as citizens and unrestrained state power; why would you want to change that, exactly? Are you particularly powerful? Do you want to give the state power to suspend due process and the rule of law at will in specific instances of violence, terror or particular crime? How would withdraw consent for such power being applied, and how can you prevent it from being generalised to cases never in its remit?

Something tells me you wouldn't like a police-state-under-siege type of scenario, overseen by an arbitrarily acting strogman, yet that's what seems to be advocated in these threads which absurdly have issues with the very values and principles of a civilised state they at least pretend to want to protect and uphold.

Dis86 said:
And that there are no ways to predict that someone is more likely to be bad than someone else.
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List all of them in the order of effectiveness, particularly for cases when no prior criminal record exists. GD's always open to new, groundbreaking research.
 
Dis86 said:
To have everyone believe we live in a world where everyone is equal. And that there are no ways to predict that someone is more likely to be bad than someone else.
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Everyone is born equal (not in prospects, but in being completely untarnished by the world we live in; completely innocent). And it's doubly sad when kids get mixed up in all of this.

Sadly not all societies are equal. And some societies excel at bringing out the worst in their citizens.

Heck, you have to imagine that if the ISIS caliphate became established, and ran for a few decades, the poor brainwashed kids that came out of that society would have almost nothing in common with any Westerner. And would probably want to kill us infidels more than anything else in the world.

So whilst I'm hesitant to use the word "equality", the idea that we can all inter-mingle and get on is just so much fairy tale nonsense.
 
Malevolence said:
It's Zethor, do you expect anything else? All they do is spam any thread concerning terrorist attacks with their inane apologist comments.
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No, they illustrate why stupid, hysterical generalisations from special cases are silly and unworkable as state policy, here or in Europe. But keep the self-flagellation alive, bro.
 
robfosters said:
What do you suggest? We just keep letting them in and putting our own citizens at risk?
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I suggest reason and deal with incidents on a case-by-basis and not paint every asylum seeker with the same brush due to association. Because I can assure you most of these asylum seekers are law-abiding people and have been dealt a bad hand.
 
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