Answer me this....

paradigm said:
Most of the roads around here, leading away to other towns are small, twisty, tractor ridden lanes. If you get stuck behind Dorris doing 30MPH in her micra, braking for everything that comes the other way, braking for corners that your eyes can't even detect are curved, braking for cateracts, and you have ZERO chance of getting past for 10 miles, you too would be cursing at them to just hurry the hell up.

They cause traffic jams, they cause other motorists to take "opportunities" to pass which they shouldn't do (I won't, I've been in a car that has done just that), yet most STILL feel the need to cut corners even at 25MPH :confused:

I feel my argument is justified.
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I agreed, going from Northwich <-> Macclesfield everyday you know that traffic can be flowing at NSL but no theres some coffin dodgers going to get they're giro at 8am in their Meriva, WHY ARE YOUI EVEN ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME?!?

It can take 30 mins at legal limit to go from (my old) place to Work, at times its taken 1hr 15-20mins because of slow people and the fact at the few over taking places I either lack HP or there is a biddy going the other way holding them up.
 
I think the difference between sitting behind some old dear in a city rover or honda jazz who's braking excessively (causing you to brake - and as a result every other poor sod behind you) is a matter of economy as well as tedium.

it costs far less in terms of fuel to sit at a constant 60mph than it does to be going up and down from 30-50.

This trait i find can also be attributed to a lot of other types of driver also. i find LOTs of drivers in manchester seem unable to actually stay at a constant speed. they speed up to just over 30mph, then go "oh, i made it to 30" and let go of the throttle, then when they slow down to 25 it's a case of rinse, repeat.

not only is it annoying but it costs you more as a result. using brakes where you wouldnt normally, dropping gears etc. etc. all costs fuel.
 
Muffin` said:
I agreed, going from Northwich <-> Macclesfield everyday you know that traffic can be flowing at NSL but no theres some coffin dodgers going to get they're giro at 8am in their Meriva, WHY ARE YOUI EVEN ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME?!?

It can take 30 mins at legal limit to go from (my old) place to Work, at times its taken 1hr 15-20mins because of slow people and the fact at the few over taking places I either lack HP or there is a biddy going the other way holding them up.
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This. In the week for the last couple months i've been going from Warrington (hotel) to Northwich (client site). On a good day when nobody is in front I can do it in 15 minutes or less (numbers may be wrong, point holds). 9/10 times there's a slow person, one that does 40 on the 90% of NSL, and then does 40 in the 30 bit too. It took me half hour this morning.

Also, this isn't a problem when i'm directly behind the slow 'person' as even in the car there's one or two places at either end of the run where I can overtake. However if i'm 2 or more cars back then i'm screwed and subjected to the tedium that is brake lights at every corner, or the back end of a lovely van where those bits of timber probably aren't secured properly. Oh yes I hang back so I don't have to use my own brakes, but it's agony all the same. I'm not even in any rush to get to the workplace, but going so slow is the annoyance.
Anyway that's just restating what has been said, but it annoys the hell out of me. I can't wait to get back on the bike!
 
Old by Far. I would not be surprised if their crap driving contributed to more accidents than young drivers lack of experience/cockiness. Difference is they (oldies) get a lot less press coverage.
 
I give them all a wide birth. Just incase. It's usually the fat bint with nine moaning kids in the back of the Chaviler that tries to run me off the road.
 
Rossmac said:
Classic example: merging traffic ahead with only the inside lane being used, suddenly a car appears in your right mirror and flies down the outside lane, even money its a BMW or an Audi. They have every right to... they paid more for their car than i did! :)
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No, because they do have every right to. Those who merge too early and leave an entire lane empty for half a mile are in fact the poor drivers, causing massive tailbacks behind them.

Merge in turn at the lane closure, not 1000 yards before it.
 
Griffo said:
This. In the week for the last couple months i've been going from Warrington (hotel) to Northwich (client site). On a good day when nobody is in front I can do it in 15 minutes or less (numbers may be wrong, point holds). 9/10 times there's a slow person, one that does 40 on the 90% of NSL, and then does 40 in the 30 bit too. It took me half hour this morning.
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Who's the client :o
 
I watched an old couple in their car yesterday, trying to reverse out of a space and crash into not one but two cars, twice each while straightening up then driving off.
 
Scuzi said:
No, because they do have every right to. Those who merge too early and leave an entire lane empty for half a mile are in fact the poor drivers, causing massive tailbacks behind them.

Merge in turn at the lane closure, not 1000 yards before it.
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Oh for sure, as Kimi says. This annoys me, people think you should only use one lane, and using the outside anywhere within 6 miles of where it merges is 'cutting in'. I was in the car, merging as it actually merged, was past a white van, just started to move left and the white van floored it and stopped me getting in. I had to stop dead or mount the overly large kerb. I horned him good, and made many signs. I wanted to kill him but my passport was at the other end of the country so not really a good idea :( :/
 
Midget Asian Women in 7 Series BMW's on the school run, with 1 child. Firstly why the 7 Series for the school run, secondly "you can't see over the steering wheel", Thirdly... she is asian

Learners doing 15 MPH in a 30

As for 40 in NSL joke tbh.... I understand what Fox says when its not the time that hes bothered about, because whats the point in doign 40 when your allowed to do 60, it is an annoyance.
 
Scuzi said:
No, because they do have every right to. Those who merge too early and leave an entire lane empty for half a mile are in fact the poor drivers, causing massive tailbacks behind them.

Merge in turn at the lane closure, not 1000 yards before it.
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Personally, I don't have a problem with people using both lanes until fairly near the actual closure, but sometimes there just isn't space for people who go all the way to the end to fit in, with how close some people love to drive in those kinds of queues. A few times, I've left a decent gap which someone could have fitted into, guy comes up tries to get past the guy in front where there wasn't space and almost runs through the lines of cones rather than use the space I'd left. Its not like its half a mile its 1-2 car lengths for crying out loud. Its one of those situations which should be so simple with a bit of common sense but everyone seems to go to extremes.

People with no awareness and those who try daft manouvres are the ones who do my head in.
 
I think old people are the worst, especially when they think that it is everyone else's fault when they do something wrong or when you overtake them and you can see them shaking their head just because you don't want to sit at 40mph behind them, whilst they stick their brakes on at every single little corner.
 
would it be pointing out the bleeding obvious to state what insurance companies think? They spend huge sums of money assesing risk and unfortunately for you younger guys you're the high risk, not oaps.

You only need to see some of the crash threads on here to see that percieved and actual driving skills are vastly different.
 
Sagalout said:
would it be pointing out the bleeding obvious to state what insurance companies think? They spend huge sums of money assesing risk and unfortunately for you younger guys you're the high risk, not oaps.

You only need to see some of the crash threads on here to see that percieved and actual driving skills are vastly different.
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Just because your the worser driver, dont make you a crash statistic
 
Sagalout said:
would it be pointing out the bleeding obvious to state what insurance companies think? They spend huge sums of money assesing risk and unfortunately for you younger guys you're the high risk, not oaps.

You only need to see some of the crash threads on here to see that percieved and actual driving skills are vastly different.
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This is becuase OAP's drive Honda Jazz's at 13mph, its impossible to crash.

Crashing isn't a judge of how good a driver you are or Petter Solberg would be the worst driver ever and my Gran would be a better driver than him.
 
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