Any "Eclipse" users here able to comment on...
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You get a 20GB monthly limit for all data transfered (both up and download) between 6pm-12pm (midnight) 7 days a week.
They also traffic shape/have different contention levels for the different products, so on the £14.99 a month option you're at the bottom of the priority list meaning the Option 2/3/4 users will get the bandwidth before you do.
They also traffic shape/have different contention levels for the different products, so on the £14.99 a month option you're at the bottom of the priority list meaning the Option 2/3/4 users will get the bandwidth before you do.
NeilFawcett said:Groan!!! Maybe Freedom2Surf then for £19.99 with a 20Gb cap
I'm on Option 3 here and I can hit full speed on USENET/BitTorrent any time of day, but http speedtesters show 3mbps during the day and about 1.5mbps in the evening, though web browsing is fine 24/7 (there was a period of time around a week ago where browsing was pretty bad but they've sorted that now)
No idea what Option 1 would be like, depends what you want to do I guess, I think they're marketing that one to people who do more web browsing than downloading.
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Does anyone work with an ISP company?
Im not totally convinced by the idea of trafic shaping, sure its not a ploy by the ISP's to get you onto their more expensive price plans? Wonder how many people have contemplated on that idea.
Im not totally convinced by the idea of trafic shaping, sure its not a ploy by the ISP's to get you onto their more expensive price plans? Wonder how many people have contemplated on that idea.
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Smithy said:
If you are doubting the existance of systems to "shape" traffic then I can tell you they do exist and they are used.
Unless you're meaning they say they have them, but dont
Deathwish said:If you are doubting the existance of systems to "shape" traffic then I can tell you they do exist and they are used.
Unless you're meaning they say they have them, but dont
I think he means with ISPs like Eclipse, they're more likely to "artificially" shape traffic on their cheaper products but give their higher users more bandwidth to encourage people to move up the packages.
I'm not sure if Eclipse keep speeds artificially low (throttling things even when there's plenty of capacity) on the lower options, but they certainly prioritise the 4 different levels when bandwidth does get short at peak time.
I don't disagree with the idea of traffic shaping at all, I'm 100% in agreement that high bandwidth applications such as P2P/FTP should be throttled back to allow gaming/http traffic to continue at high speed as I'm not going to notice if my download takes a couple of minutes more, but I am going to notice if my web pages take a fair few seconds to load or I'm getting bad lag in my games.
The only alternatives to traffic shaping are:
- Leave everything unlimited and watch the complaints of slow web browsing come flooding in
- Invest in more capacity - very expensive on BTWholesale packages
- Traffic shape
- Ban high bandwidth applications completely
I think Eclipse need to tweak their shaping setup a bit though as it's allowing full speed BitTorrent at peak periods but http downloads slow down...
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Great ISP for gaming always outstanding pings etc..
I have had great speeds since being on maxdsl and finally getting BT to admit my copper line was faulty (fixed on saturday) since that day ive hit 600kB/s minimum anytime of the day.
Paa`
I have had great speeds since being on maxdsl and finally getting BT to admit my copper line was faulty (fixed on saturday) since that day ive hit 600kB/s minimum anytime of the day.
Paa`
I moved from plusnet to eclipse, best move ever, greta pings for me when gaming in css or bf2, i've just moved onto maxdsl and i've been synching at 8128 kbps since they regraded my line, just about out of the 10day training perdiod. No complaints with speed with them excelllent service so far. Oh im on option 4 £30 a month but i have 6 computers on this line.
Soldato
Eclipse, isnt very good for gaming, you get a lot of paket loss to all servers and the pings to uk servers is poor, with jolt having 13 hops to it
overall VERY poor gaming isp tbh
overall VERY poor gaming isp tbh
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TiZoR said:
it isnt?
i must be imagining my ping being 15-25 in most games
tickle me elmo said:it isnt?
i must be imagining my ping being 15-25 in most games
Since my MaxDSL regrade I've had 12ms pings most of the time on Multiplay.co.uk servers
For some reason Jolt.co.uk goes through Level3 now, but latency is still low.
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I just did a trace route to a Multiplay BF2 server:
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Phil99 said:Since my MaxDSL regrade I've had 12ms pings most of the time on Multiplay.co.uk servers
For some reason Jolt.co.uk goes through Level3 now, but latency is still low.
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I just did a trace route to a Multiplay BF2 server:
you probably have a better router, mine is a value thingy
Soldato
im getting 40ms to uk servers and a lot of pl to any server, and no im not on max ADSL and nore do i have lots of CRC errors before you ask
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right now i wouldnt recommend them, but im on the old style unlimited 24/7 package.
Since maxDSL was consumed by the masses, my average download speeds during day time hours have dropped outrageously. Dell FTP for example gives me 30kbps downloading drivers on a 1mb line. Its sucky. A few weeks back i hit 110 average to any decent FTP.
My gaming pings are fine, roughly 15-30 on the uk servers i use.
Download speeds off peak are fine.
But im swapping to another ISP as soon as I decide on a decent one.
Since maxDSL was consumed by the masses, my average download speeds during day time hours have dropped outrageously. Dell FTP for example gives me 30kbps downloading drivers on a 1mb line. Its sucky. A few weeks back i hit 110 average to any decent FTP.
My gaming pings are fine, roughly 15-30 on the uk servers i use.
Download speeds off peak are fine.
But im swapping to another ISP as soon as I decide on a decent one.
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Phil99 said:I doubt you can get cheaper than mine, it's a cheapo Conexant thing that can't even do uPnP, doesn't have a firewall and can only forward 20 ports at a time
mine is conextant, cant do upnp and didnt have a firewall till i flashed it... er i think we must have the same one? 4 port origo? i cant fault it really tho, bar it having higher pings than everyone else :|
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i think we'll stay on the 2048/256 unlimited, since there are no caps and im able to download 4gb or more in the restricted period that comes with the 8mb connections. 1.5gb per evening is quite retarded, especially when fast speeds are meant for downloading big files.
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