i just connected a multi fuel cooker up for someone.yes i am an electrician.But i am not a plumber.And i connected the gas up with a hose they sell at any diy shops.As long as u use the proper cable for the cooker its ok and u make sure the terminals are tight.I am not gas safe but i used the fairy liquid test and it was safe.lol Rules and regs are there for ppl who dont have a clue.I allways say why pay somebody loads of money if u can do it yourself.And if its against the law to connect things up why do they sell all the things u need at the diy shops.
Any Electricians here?
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I'm a sparks.
If the cooker is electric only then don't connect it into the ring cct along with your kitchen sockets, it should be on a dedicated supply using 6/10mm cable on around a 40A supply.
Basicaly if it has not come with a 13a plug and flex attatched don't wire it into the existing socket cct.
If you had an electric cooker previously then there should be a cooker outlet and cooker isolator switch in the kitchen already.
If the cooker is electric only then don't connect it into the ring cct along with your kitchen sockets, it should be on a dedicated supply using 6/10mm cable on around a 40A supply.
Basicaly if it has not come with a 13a plug and flex attatched don't wire it into the existing socket cct.
If you had an electric cooker previously then there should be a cooker outlet and cooker isolator switch in the kitchen already.
that makes sense as the one I was looking it was a fitted one
Again though, who says you cant? There are no checks governing this type of thing.
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I am amazed that this is even an option (not that it would happen).Surely you mean a 32a supply? 6mm T+E isn't rated to 40a (if you bring correction factors into it, Which in a domestic setting you nearly always will)
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I'm amazed so many DIY electricians think everything will be ok, The amount of shoddy and dangerous diy work I see day in day out is amazing.
I did a new oven a couple of weeks ago, dead easy but the odd thing was the manual said it can be wired to 13Anever seen that before, wired it to the hard wired dedicated cable though
Single built under ovens usually use a normal 13A plug. New builds/refurbs will usually have a socket next to the cooker connection unit for this purpose. It's not even on the cooker circuit usually, but on the kitchen sockets ring.
It's double ovens, hobs, and free standing electric cookers that need the heavy cabling.
Do you know that the cable is sufficient enough to carry the current, earth size is enough to carry fault current, MCB is of the correct tripping current, it's RCD protected, Fused, polarity etc.
I'd just get an Electrician mate, Lighting circuits are completely different to Cookers.
You may think you have wired it up fine but their are many factors to take into consideration.
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Liability is with the Installer not the tenant. as said, If an electrician has signed the Minor works/schedule of test results then he is held responsible unless it's found out that the work he carried out was changed in any way.
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I would say thats fine, just ensure you know you have disconnected the right fuse or turned off the correct Circuit breaker and that nobody can turn it on again (either by putting up a notice or locking off if you have an MCB lock off)
Ensure the fuse is off and the cooker supply switch.
I am only an apprentice though, not fully qualified yet I've changed a cooker element before.
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Oh so I suppose its legal to commit murder/rape as long as you do it in your own property???
Im not sure what you don't understand, hobs must be fitted using hard piping, anyone instaling one with flexible hoses in any property is breaking the law and is liable for prosecution.
I did a new oven a couple of weeks ago, dead easy but the odd thing was the manual said it can be wired to 13A
you can put modern singles on 13A
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Sorry should have been more clear, 6mm cpc 10mm P+N (as it is in T+E).
Used to short hand
Edit: Most cookers could probaby get away with a 32a and 6mm T&E due to diversity.
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You've basically two options to comply with Part P electrical work - the "usual" Part P scam registered sparky route (the part P scams ultimately notify the local council IIRC and costs the sparky a few quid per job) or to put a Building Regs application in to the local council, which will cost you £100+ (so unless you're doing a bit of work, it's not likely to be worth doing).
Maybe not at the moment, but who knows what daft scheme our elected representatives will come up with next that might do more to enforce the requirements introduced with Part P? It can be pretty obvious if something has been done since Part P came in to force (eg brown / blue twin & earth), so it could become something to be enforced in the future (more bureaucracy, just what we need
)...Of course if you "happen" to have some red/black twin & earth, the electrics have always been like that, haven't they?
Of course if you "happen" to have some red/black twin & earth, the electrics have always been like that, haven't they?
Ditto all of the colour schemes, it was all like that when you bought it if it came to it
In reality no-body checks, and no checks are ever required by law.