By the wording of his comment i assumed that the delidding was in reference to clocks exceeding 5.0GHz. Which i don't believe is possible, if the average retail sample isn't reaching 4.8Ghz without delidding
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Any Recent Buyers of the 8700K Feeling Buyer's Remorse?
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well its going on personal experience, mine is at 4.9 on 5 cores and 4.8 on the other 5. i'm limited to that by temperatures not voltage. delided i'm sure 5.0+ wouldn't be an issue. (not seen any reviews which use a delidded sample - the fact its not solder still annoys me though) And its what i have noticed in various overclocking communities too. even the 7980 seems to clock very well indeed, to similar clocks if not a couple hundred less, but thats got hundreds of cores!
either way, it clocks well
I'm just waiting for the 8 core chip, if it isn't released for the next battlefield then I'll probably buy a cheap Ryzen system should be some used 1600's going for £100 by then, pair it with a cheap motherboard and wait it out
In a similar situation, my 2500k build is on its last legs and I desperately need a new PC as I'm currently only able to game using the onboard graphics. Is the new 8 core coffee lake processor guaranteed to be significantly better than the 8700k for gaming? Or will the performance be roughly the same? I don't know but looks like there are three options:
1) Go all out and build an 8700k system now
2) Build the same 'all out' system now but with a cheap cpu and motherboard, upgrade them when the new coffee lake comes out
3) Struggle on with my onboard graphics and wait who knows how many months until the new coffee lake turns up
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I'm just waiting for the 8 core chip, if it isn't released for the next battlefield then I'll probably buy a cheap Ryzen system should be some used 1600's going for £100 by then, pair it with a cheap motherboard and wait it out
Ditto, my 4690K is great for most games but the lack of hyperthreading is showing in some titles. If it's priced above the 8700K rather than replacing it then I wouldn't wait as gaming performance surely won't be improved outside very few titles?
It's either the motherboard or PSU. PC doesn't boot with a graphics card in but works fine without one. I've tried multiple GPUs including a brand new one, and in different slots, but still didn't work. All I get is a black screen and sometimes strange graphical glitches
Try increasing VCCIO & VCCSA voltages in the BIOS, I had a similar issue a while back with my 2600K and I needed to increase those voltages to reach stability after I got a GTX970.
I like to buy once and keep for 5+ years, sure it won't be much better for gaming now but it'll show later on, not only that but if I decide I want the PC for something else then it's always nice to have.
I think AMD deserve more credit for their CCX design, it's quite genius. Allows them to create a chip which spanks Intel for value and multi threaded performance.
well it spanks intel for price, and multi thread IF the intel has fewer cores.I think AMD deserve more credit for their CCX design, it's quite genius. Allows them to create a chip which spanks Intel for value and multi threaded performance.
I do feel bad for anyone who bought a 7700k last summer, I mean its a pretty damn good chip and in most cases will serve their owners well for years to come... but it must kinda blow to buy an expensive quad core just as everyone moves away from them, and then to add insult to injury the Z270 motherboards don't support the new chips
what really hurts 7700k owners in my view is the 8600k, outperforms it but as in i5 not an i7 so its a better chip at a i5 price level.
With that said tho I am aware the next i5 chip has a moderate chance of been an 8 core, and I have the view you buy the best for now, I dont wait because something better will always be round the corner.
Also I still havent seen any confirmation anyway (I mean proper confirmation of testing for it) that ryzen 2 chips yet have spectre mitigation enabled, so we dont know if that performance overhead is still to come for AMD, also a lot of the review scores are flawed due to the testing methodology, OC3D graphs which include OC 8 series chips and this graph here still show the "real" gap.
https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1613/bench/Average.png
The gap is still there, just it isnt a chasm like it was before.
As an i5 owner I am happy because its still a decent upgrade over what I upgraded from. Even with meltdown patched again now, the earlier issues I posted about are mostly gone so may have possibly been aided by something else.
edit thanks to nashathedog for checking https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/31759659 --Ryzen 2 chips do have spectre mitigation enabled, so the performance now is good for that
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That's a fair point. This upgrade will also have to last me years as I now have two kids and a mortgage so upgrade funds will be limited. The 8700K is at the upper range of what I can justify price wise so if a potential 8 core model comes in at a higher price point it won't affect my decision. On the other hand an 8 core i5 model mighty although I think hyperthreading will be essential for how long I anticipate keeping it.
Wait til you're dead, then you won't have to spend anything
You're on to something.
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I have no idea why ANYONE would complain about owning the 8700k. It is a great CPU. There are scenario's where it isn't the fastest in production work, but it still isn't a slow chip.
I can like Ryzen a ton, but it still doesn't make me not see the world for how it is.
I don't have buyers remorse in the slightest, 6 cores / 12 threads is more than enough for the forseeable future. I still think that its fantastic being able to reach 5ghz on air with a hyperthreaded 6 core. It wasnt that long ago when I was struggling to hit 4.5ghz on my i5 4690k.