Any roofers here? Lead box join.

[thezappa]

NHBC advise flashings “should be tucked 25mm into a brick joint and wedged in place at not more than 450mm centres, or a minimum of one per step for stepped flashings”
(I realise that is not a stepped flashing but the principle is the same and arguably more important to have it detailed into the masonry)

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Just checked the lead association, they say the same (most likely where the NHBC guidance came from)

 

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We’ve already had a quote out lining what needs rectifying, which we’ve communicated and stated will be deducted from the final balance owing, so aren’t out of pocket besides the time and effort.

His response was that anyone assessing it would always suggest everything needs removing and redoing, regardless of necessity, so that they could guarentee the work and that level of remedy isn’t necessary to fix the leak.

Though this is now not just about it leaking but rather it being a total ****show that won’t last the year let alone a decade.

I will be surprised if he attempts to defend the video I posted above. His absence from site is shielding him from how bad it really is.

Ah is he another one of these TikTok tradesmen that has been on a "scaling your business" course? Almost no point getting trades in to quote now. They come, give you a large figure, then get some lad in a white van to do it for you. My roofer who cocked up was the same. It is why I paid such a big premium for my plumbers as I knew it was the bloke quoting who was coming to do the job.

 

[gingergundog]

Pebble dash needs cutting back then lead should be chased into the wall.

 

[ANDARIAL]

if Brick wall there`should`be lead trays installed for a `pucker`waterproof job
But we also used to cut the flashings into the wall,not the render,at least 25mm often deeper as well
that video looks like a half arsed job the lead is barely into the render let alone the brick!

 

[BennyC]

NHBC advise flashings “should be tucked 25mm into a brick joint and wedged in place at not more than 450mm centres, or a minimum of one per step for stepped flashings”
(I realise that is not a stepped flashing but the principle is the same and arguably more important to have it detailed into the masonry)

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Just checked the lead association, they say the same (most likely where the NHBC guidance came from)

Thanks, I'm familiar with the NHBC though unsure whether their guidance is only applicable to new builds. If the lead association provide similar guidance than that'll do

 

[Buffman]

As you say it's total ***** what they've done with it visibly peeling back, but unfortunately similarly I don't know enough about it to tell you exactly how it should be done.

 

[thezappa]

Thanks, I'm familiar with the NHBC though unsure whether their guidance is only applicable to new builds. If the lead association provide similar guidance than that'll do

The thing with NHBC is that every trade should at least know about it and if you tell them it’s one of their standard details they ‘should’ take notice.
I don’t think it really matters that you’re not pursuing a warranty claim through them for the work the fact you can tell them it’s a basic step in getting it right will hopefully indicate to them you at least know what is expected and they should be doing better.
That is reliant on them knowing as well and taking notice of it so it can be hit and miss. They seem like a bunch of cowboys though so it seems unlikely.

 

[jonneymendoza]

We’ve already had a quote out lining what needs rectifying, which we’ve communicated and stated will be deducted from the final balance owing, so aren’t out of pocket besides the time and effort.

His response was that anyone assessing it would always suggest everything needs removing and redoing, regardless of necessity, so that they could guarentee the work and that level of remedy isn’t necessary to fix the leak.

Though this is now not just about it leaking but rather it being a total ****show that won’t last the year let alone a decade.

I will be surprised if he attempts to defend the video I posted above. His absence from site is shielding him from how bad it really is.

From my recent experience. My original roofer started the job and abandoned us when only half of it was done and so I had to find another roofer who could finish it off and honour a guarantee and they did.

2nd roofer was slow though and messy, I even had to go up the dangerous scaffolding to check stuff myself and also the building control inspector also wasn't happy with the work but eventually we got there in the end and it's all done. Still looks a tiny bit messy but at least it's all sealed and done (I hope)

I wasted 2 months because of this roof

 

[thezappa]

I checked the British standard BS6915, which may wish to quote.

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[jonneymendoza]

I checked the British standard BS6915, which may wish to quote.

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Why the hell are we as customers having to dig up this...

I don't go about asking my customers or clients that use the software that I create if the standard of my code works and that it passes through the unit tests etc...

I mean wow

 

[LuckyBenski]

Why the hell are we as customers having to dig up this...

I don't go about asking my customers or clients that use the software that I create if the standard of my code works and that it passes through the unit tests etc...

I mean wow

TBH I'd argue there's some (a lot) of awful cowboys out there doing work for people who don't know any better, certainly in the trades and there's some very flawed software out there too! Doubly true for web apps and sites.

*No comment at all on your work