Any tips for this diet.

[Big Chris]

If you're eating haphazardly througout the day you're not going to be making optimum gains, just try and have a structured diet with a good brekfast and dinner...

I have a pretty set eating pattern at the mo:

- Weetabix for breakfast,
- snack on fruit/museli bar,
- couple of sandwhiches for lunch (ham, chicken, turkey) on wholegrain bread and a yoghurt,
- some more fruit/another museli bar,
- dinner which could be stir fry, jacket spud and beans, chicken pasta thing I make up as I go along etc.
- work out in the evening then a protein shake when I get back from the gym.

 

[NitrogenY3K]

I have a pretty set eating pattern at the mo:

- Weetabix for breakfast,
- snack on fruit/museli bar,
- couple of sandwhiches for lunch (ham, chicken, turkey) on wholegrain bread and a yoghurt,
- some more fruit/another museli bar,
- dinner which could be stir fry, jacket spud and beans, chicken pasta thing I make up as I go along etc.
- work out in the evening then a protein shake when I get back from the gym.

No protein sources in meal 1,2, and 4 and you dont have any food after you come back from the gym. You need to look at thatand get it sorted, you will make a lot better gains

 

[Goatboy]

I work from 9-5, sometimes later and just wouldn't have the time (or patience!) to put all that together every day. I've read many of your threads and you're obviously very serious about your training so I can appreciate why you do it, but is it the only way to make decent gains?

I work 50 hours a week starting at 7 monday > saturday and have no trouble either attending the gym or eating a proper diet. There's really no excuses why anyone can't, of course you have to be 'serious' and do it properly or you might as well not bother at all.

 

[Big Chris]

No protein sources in meal 1,2, and 4 and you dont have any food after you come back from the gym. You need to look at thatand get it sorted, you will make a lot better gains

What would you suggest to get some more protein in there?

I work 50 hours a week starting at 7 monday > saturday and have no trouble either attending the gym or eating a proper diet. There's really no excuses why anyone can't, of course you have to be 'serious' and do it properly or you might as well not bother at all.

I get to the gym fine, 1/2 hours a night mon-fri if I can mixing weights and cardio. I'm not overly serious about it, as in I'm not going to stick to a strict diet for maximum gains, but I'd like to get something out of it.

 

[Clipsey]

TKE Monster food is 1190 calories per serving , thanks for the advice but with that i would deffinetly put on to much escess fat lol.

Yeah its a pure beast!! but you have to keep the fat under control too which didnt appear to be a problem is awesome for 'monster gains'

What category did he compete in, what is his name?

His name is Paul Yates - he doesnt do it anymore this was about 4-6years ago now when he was dead serious. No idea what category he was in - im guessing the heaviest as he was a beast lol
When the cutting down phase came in jeez !! Talk about strict!

 

[Goatboy]

I'm not going to stick to a strict diet for maximum gains, but I'd like to get something out of it.

Just focusing on eating good food will get you plenty of results without having to be strict or obsessive. It's not hard to dip into bags of nuts/seeds or eat a bit of fruit during the day which will aid health and results. Combine that with a few good meals a day (don't forget the veggies) and your most of the way there.

 

[Chong Warrior]

I work 50 hours a week starting at 7 monday > saturday and have no trouble either attending the gym or eating a proper diet. There's really no excuses why anyone can't, of course you have to be 'serious' and do it properly or you might as well not bother at all.

As an example I finished work an hour and a half ago after starting at 7am, I'm on my way to the gym in a minute.... tempted to just goto the pub but these are the times that make or break wether you make good gains.

It's also legs day so twice as tempting!

Dedication

 

[Giddy]

How many calories were you having on your cutting diet? Can you post a typical days menu?

 

[NitrogenY3K]

How many calories were you having on your cutting diet? Can you post a typical days menu?

This a sample of 1 of the days, it changed sometimes weekly sometimes 2 weekly:

Wake 1 scoop whey in water

Breakfast 7.00am Porridge: 40g oats + 100ml skimmed milk + ½ tsp sugar
2 boiled egg whites, 1 yolk 200ml fresh fruit juice

9.30am 80g chicken breast
Item fruit

Lunch 12.00pm Large mixed salad
175g tuna or mackerel (in brine – drained)
2 oatcakes
Low fat / low sugar yoghurt

Mid afternoon 2.30pm 80g chicken breast

45 mins pre workout 75g mackerel fillet
2 oatcakes
Item fruit

Immediately post workout 40g whey in water

Evening Meal 7.15pm 150g chicken breast or 150g white fish
30g basmati rice or small (1 egg-sized) sweet potato
and loads of veg

Late meal (9.30pm) 80g chicken breast

Bedtime 25g casein in 100ml skimmed milk

 

[Morba]

I work 50 hours a week starting at 7 monday > saturday and have no trouble either attending the gym or eating a proper diet. There's really no excuses why anyone can't, of course you have to be 'serious' and do it properly or you might as well not bother at all.

Good for you, others arent fortunate to be able to have a serious diet for weights and work at the same time and have a 'life'. 50 hours 5 days a week starting at 7am means your home early enough to prepare plenty for the rest of the day and the next.

All or nothing? Dont be stupid. You do your best as much as you can.

 

[Clipsey]

Imho, it's probably the most under-rated supplement out there.

Taurine - you know of a good place to get it -
So far I can only see Holland & Barrett which offer tablet form of 50mg per tablet - pretty cheap though

Think I might give it ago!

 

[Fusion]

Taurine - you know of a good place to get it -
So far I can only see Holland & Barrett which offer tablet form of 50mg per tablet - pretty cheap though

Think I might give it ago!

http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/search.php?xSearch=taurine&x=0&y=0&=Submit

 

[Clipsey]

Cheers fusion
Ordered! worth giving it a go see what results I get

 

[alexakasloth]

Could replace the nuts and raisins with cottage cheese for the late night meal.

Why is it always cottage cheese, instead of cheddar? How much more expensive is cottage cheese?

 

[Big Chris]

Just focusing on eating good food will get you plenty of results without having to be strict or obsessive. It's not hard to dip into bags of nuts/seeds or eat a bit of fruit during the day which will aid health and results. Combine that with a few good meals a day (don't forget the veggies) and your most of the way there.

I eat two or three pieces of fruit a day usually, apples and bananas mainly.

I've heard nuts are a good idea too though, any particular ones I should go for?

 

[oddjob62]

Why is it always cottage cheese, instead of cheddar? How much more expensive is cottage cheese?

Cottage is much lower in fat.

 

[Chong Warrior]

Taurine - you know of a good place to get it -
So far I can only see Holland & Barrett which offer tablet form of 50mg per tablet - pretty cheap though

Think I might give it ago!

myprotein

Use the code MP5500 for a further 5% off

Using just a few grams is ok but to really feel the benefits I'd recommend a 5g serving 30 mins before you train. Use it with CEE in a stack... awesome

Cottage is much lower in fat.

How anybody eats that stuff is beyond me, truly awfull tasting

 

[Ed]

Meal 1 (7:00am)

30g Whey in water
3 Poached Eggs
2 Pieces granary bread
80g Oatmeal with 300ml skimmed milk
200ml Orange juice
1000mg Flax

*snip*

Meal 9 (10:30)

25g Caesin in 200ml Skimmed milk
1000 mg Flax

My god man don't you ever crave a curry or a great big hamburger?

Just focusing on eating good food will get you plenty of results without having to be strict or obsessive. It's not hard to dip into bags of nuts/seeds or eat a bit of fruit during the day which will aid health and results. Combine that with a few good meals a day (don't forget the veggies) and your most of the way there.

Sums it up nicely. I personally feel just eating big is enough; clean is a luxury or for the dedicated. I'm not a strict dieter but it's fairly good and I'm still reaching my goals. As for Nitro's diet, too hardcore for me but looks solid. [With lifting, you get out of it what you put in so let us know the gains you make on this diet as I'd be interested to know the difference between a good diet and an excellent one]

I just enjoy food and good wine too much...

 

[NitrogenY3K]

My god man don't you ever crave a curry or a great big hamburger?

I just enjoy food and good wine too much...

Sometimes I crave a curry or a pizza but when i cheat its never anything that big. What I call a cheat is 250-300g of oatmeal with a nice helping of sugar lol. So nice

 

[Goatboy]

Good for you, others arent fortunate to be able to have a serious diet for weights and work at the same time and have a 'life'. 50 hours 5 days a week starting at 7am means your home early enough to prepare plenty for the rest of the day and the next.

All or nothing? Dont be stupid. You do your best as much as you can.

You seem to have only quoted one thing and misread the rest, ignoring the part where I make a simple suggestion to prove my point - how 'stupid' and where exactly did I use the words 'all or nothing'

It takes me 20 minutes maximum to prepare my food for the next day, if you can get yourself to the gym you can make a little effort in the kitchen. Training and diet go hand in hand if you don't put effort into one you're wasting your time on the other. Doing things 'properly'
means simply having a sound eating plan anyone can do that since the primary goal of it is health and nothing is more important than that.

I've heard nuts are a good idea too though, any particular ones I should go for?

walnuts are good because they contain omega 3's, macadamias and cashews are both winners for taste, almonds are high in protein - basically eat all of them.

I personally feel just eating big is enough; clean is a luxury or for the dedicated.

I've never been one for eating 'clean' I'm not entirely sure what it means for most people it's tuna and rice five times a day I think - most of the 'bodybuilding' diets I see look incredibly bland and devoid of variety.
Some of my meals are 'clean' usually the ones for work because choice is so limited along the lines of chicken and salad, at home though I eat proper food - mash potato, lasagnes, roasts, bolognese all the good stuff.