Anybody here from Stoke on Trent who can smell the smell?

Scania said:
I’ve noticed it’s consistently awful around 3:30 - 3:45 am when I’m heading to work yet returning in the evening it’s rare that I notice the smell at all, anyone else find the same?
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I did a job on the small industrial estate opposite the entrance of the quarry not long ago couldn't smell a thing go round the corner and it hums
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Probably hoping everyone will have caught covid by now so sense of smell will no longer be a problem.

P.S. don't mention this idea to Boris.
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Funny you say that. I caught Covid in July, and since then haven't been able to smell the landfill. Kind of a saving grace frankly.


Brutal biff said:
I did a job on the small industrial estate opposite the entrance of the quarry not long ago couldn't smell a thing go round the corner and it hums
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It's really dependent on the wind direction as I'm sure you can appreciate. If you're not in the line of fire, you can be surprisingly close to the hell pit and not smell Satan's arse.
 
After considering the evidence, Mr Justice Fordham ruled "real and significant change" was required "as a matter of urgency".

While he said he would not rule if there was a current breach by the watchdog, he said he was "not satisfied, on the evidence, that the EA has yet addressed its legal duties in the way that it must".

The judge called on the EA to ensure off-site odours are reduced and that daily H2S levels are cut to a safe level by January 2022, to meet standards set out by authorities in the United States and by Public Health England.
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Earlier in the story...

Mr Justice Fordham said he was not satisfied the EA had complied with its legal duties.
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:rolleyes: the EA were there for the taking, why not order them to do something immediately, instead of letting them off the hook with a slapped wrist? No mention of compensation for the family either. Pretty shocking.
 
The issue with environmental monitoring (particularly air emissions) is that it's extremely unlikely anyone outside of the landfill or the EA are going to have the technology to monitor it.

I ran a gas-fired power plant for 3 years and we had a CEMS (continuous emissions monitoring system) that basically sampled the air (and water) continuously though an analyser to ensure we were within the limits. The organisation that I worked for actually set the operational limits to 50% of our environmental permit to ensure we never got ANYWHERE near any sort of issues.

Now, assuming they don't have a continuous system (because they're complex and ££££) they could well do spot-sampling where they take a reading from different locations at X time on Y day. The chances of the EA proving that the landfill aren't doing enough by simply looking at their records is minimal. After all, if you knew of an issue.. you'd just sample up-wind, so to speak. Likewise, the EA will arrive on site with an active (pump) air sampler and do some measurements... beyond their meter finding massive amounts of Sulphur Dioxide and alarming, they will likely said "looks ok to us boss".

I am speculating, but I'd be interested to see what that site's environmental permit looks like. I'd bet that the air emission limits have been set much too high, which is why the general public can smell it, without any scientific measuring devices.... and who sets the limits? The EA.

Dun dun dunnnn.....
 
I'm started getting burning smells near where I live, always at night. They have just bought an incinerator a few miles away. Can't be a coincidence :/
 
EVH said:
The issue with environmental monitoring (particularly air emissions) is that it's extremely unlikely anyone outside of the landfill or the EA are going to have the technology to monitor it.
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On the estate next to it they have a couple of these - https://www.facebook.com/AaronBell4NUL/videos/268102498251559


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There’s 4 of the EA’s 6 units around Newcastle-under-Lyme currently. They post the results online fairly regularly.
 
I've seen protesters recently, I guess there's still been no progress this year in terms of a solution to stop this?
 
In that guardian article from December:
Walleys Quarry Ltd, an associated company of Red Industries, said: “Walleys Quarry Ltd has never received or disposed of hazardous waste in contravention of any regulations. Any allegations that it has ever done so are baseless and wrong.

“There are no grounds whatsoever for this investigation or the unprofessional way it has been publicised by the EA as a supposedly responsible regulator. Despite this, the company will cooperate fully with the EA investigation so the true facts can be established and made known at the earliest opportunity.”
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That quote alone makes me think the landfill is being run by a bunch of crooks.

Deflecting concerns onto claims about dealing with hazardous waste in contravention of regulations, ignoring the fact their emissions have been above safe limits, and going after the regulator in their public statement. The whole tone comes across like some idiot on Jeremy Kyle aggressively denying that he ever stole his mum's jewellery despite there being pictures of him taking it to a pawnshop.

Hope it gets resolved.
 
No sight of it being resolved any time soon despite what Boris says in the Commons. The stink is still bad, the lorries queuing up in the morning to do the waste runs cause chaos by parking up outside the place before the gates open, and to add insult to injury the Police are useless managing the traffic and just concentrate on arresting people legally protesting instead. The EA have been a bit more visible of late, doing random checks of the lorries dumping there but once word gets out the EA are on site the lorries disappear into the ether...

The first cell is now in the process of being capped off but there's another couple that are being filled in with crap now so the issue remains.

As for the hazardous waste, there's a Twitter account that's whistleblowing information regarding that. The EA have yet to comment.
 
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